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Title: UK2000 Airports in P3D 4.5 after the recent update.
Post by: mwyatt on September 01, 2022, 01:08:54 pm
Hi Virtuali, good day to you.
I have P3d 4.5.14.34698, Win 11. GSX and GSX2.
 Before the recent update all the UK2000 airports worked correctly in P3D/GSX/GSX2. Since the update, some do not work, and some do.
Those that do not work (for me) are Stansted (EGSS), East Midlands (EGNX), Doncaster (EGCN), and Heathrow (EGLL), these airports give the error "only 1 parking space available", or words to that effect.
There are no updates from the developer. I have tried deleting the INI files in Virtuaili/GSX/, but no improvement.
I have a backup of the ADDON MANAGER from before the update, so I can compare before and after the update.
Is it possible for a fix in the near future ?, Or is getting these airports to run in P3D 4.5 a lost cause ?
Thanks for the fixes so far.
Best regards, Martin.
Title: Re: UK2000 Airports in P3D 4.5 after the recent update.
Post by: FOD on September 01, 2022, 03:40:28 pm
Martin
I have 10 of Gary’s airfields - only EGGW 2020 HD works after the update. The others which are much older all fail.
Over the last week I have done multi multi installs and tried every solution that came up on the forum and yesterday I found the work around - as well as deleting the ini files in the Virtuali folder, you need to delete the 2 gsx ini files in the airfield scenery folder. So far that has worked for all the UK 2000 fields
Good luck!
John Rooum
Title: Re: UK2000 Airports in P3D 4.5 after the recent update.
Post by: mwyatt on September 01, 2022, 04:56:58 pm
Hi John, thanks for your reply.
I have done as you suggested at the 4 UK2000 airports that did not work for me.
They now work as expected, but no SODE jetways at gates at those 4 airports.
I wonder if reinstalling SODE would cure that ??
Thanks for your help.
Martin.
Title: Re: UK2000 Airports in P3D 4.5 after the recent update.
Post by: FOD on September 01, 2022, 05:08:10 pm
Did you check the box for new exclude files for each airport - then shut down P3D, run the compiler and start p3d again?
Title: Re: UK2000 Airports in P3D 4.5 after the recent update.
Post by: liamr685 on September 01, 2022, 05:55:46 pm
As mentioned, this works to get gsx to acknowledge gates, but leaves you with no animated jetways.
Title: Re: UK2000 Airports in P3D 4.5 after the recent update.
Post by: mwyatt on September 03, 2022, 12:36:39 pm
John, could you please remind me how to check the box for new exclusins.
I have completely forgotton how to do it.
Best regards, Martin.

Title: Re: UK2000 Airports in P3D 4.5 after the recent update.
Post by: FOD on September 03, 2022, 01:03:15 pm
Load up at any gate at the airfield in question. Select GSX Customise Airport Positions.
Look for Jetway Exclude Radius checkbox. If already ticked - untick - tick again. Press apply - bottom right.
Shutdown P3D.
Run the GSX Control Panel and compile the new exclude.
Title: Re: UK2000 Airports in P3D 4.5 after the recent update.
Post by: tonyg59 on September 03, 2022, 01:45:37 pm
Hi Martin,

Your problem sounds exactly the same as I had with many of my airports. I have found a fix/workaround
that I will hope will get you up and working again as it did me.

Details are posted in "This parking is isolated - again!" (page2).
You have to add parkingsystem = 0 to every .ini file parking/gate entry if it doesn't already have it
in each scenery directory and also any .ini files in Virtuaili/GSX for that airport.

A rather time consuming process but it worked for me and all my SOD jetways work and still have my local GSX
configs.

The following airports I got working using this method.

UK2000 - egbb, egll, egnx, egph, egss
FSDT - lsgg
Flightbeam - kiad

and may work for any others with the same issue.

regards

Tony
Title: Re: UK2000 Airports in P3D 4.5 after the recent update.
Post by: srcooke on September 03, 2022, 03:08:51 pm
@tonyg59

Care to share your LSGG.ini file as your suggestion does not appear to work here.
Title: Re: UK2000 Airports in P3D 4.5 after the recent update.
Post by: mwyatt on September 03, 2022, 03:41:33 pm
Hi Tony, thanks for your reply. I have tried your m ethod using Heathrow as an example.
It did make the jetways appear, but only the default ones. Coud not get SODE to appear there.
I have gone back to 4 weeks ago, will remain there until the program is more stable.
I have wasted enough time already !!
Best regards, Martin.
Title: Re: UK2000 Airports in P3D 4.5 after the recent update.
Post by: TheCaptain3618 on September 03, 2022, 03:59:23 pm
I need SODE Files for UK2000 EGLL.
Title: Re: UK2000 Airports in P3D 4.5 after the recent update.
Post by: tonyg59 on September 03, 2022, 04:01:02 pm
@tonyg59

Care to share your LSGG.ini file as your suggestion does not appear to work here.

Here you go, replace file in Addon Manager/FSdreamteam/LSGG

I do not have a .ini file for Virtuaili/GSX as no mods have been made by me.

This file maybe overwritten by the original if the update process is run.

regards

Tony
Title: Re: UK2000 Airports in P3D 4.5 after the recent update.
Post by: mwyatt on September 03, 2022, 05:01:51 pm
If any body has a working version of EGLL (Heathrow) with SODE jetways from UK2000 before the update,  I have P3D 4.5. I would love a copy.
I am not sure that there were any SODE jetways at UK2000's Heathrow.
I have tried a reinstall, nothing changed, I just have default jetways that are greyed out.
Martin.
Title: Re: UK2000 Airports in P3D 4.5 after the recent update.
Post by: srcooke on September 03, 2022, 07:06:17 pm
@tonyg59

Thanks for the file Tony, it does work here.

Question is why when I had 88 parkingsystem = entries in my own file which failed only to find the number had reduced to 80 after the sim had run.

Title: Re: UK2000 Airports in P3D 4.5 after the recent update.
Post by: mwyatt on September 04, 2022, 12:44:41 pm
For anybody looking for SODE jetways for UK2000 EGLL in P3D.
Look here, this person has done all the work, and it works.
search ...UK 2000 HEATHROW XTREME EGLL.
2 posts, 1 dated Nov 23rd 2020, 2nd updtaed Feb 16th 2022.
Follow the instructions to the letter, with the correct updated installation of UK2000, Version 3.2
Title: Re: UK2000 Airports in P3D 4.5 after the recent update.
Post by: liamr685 on September 04, 2022, 01:22:33 pm
For anybody looking for SODE jetways for UK2000 EGLL in P3D.
Look here, this person has done all the work, and it works.
search ...UK 2000 HEATHROW XTREME EGLL.
2 posts, 1 dated Nov 23rd 2020, 2nd updtaed Feb 16th 2022.
Follow the instructions to the letter, with the correct updated installation of UK2000, Version 3.2

It’s good that people are finding fixes/workarounds, but we shouldn’t be doing this.

All this is a direct result of an update pushed with the release of GSX Pro for MSFS, the Devs need to sort this out as it’s their product not working how it used to…the joy of them trying to make 3 versions of the same product, work on 2 sims with 2 different engines, with the same common files.

FSX and P3D versions of GSX are bugged to no end at add on sceneries, and the devs have been pretty quiet for a few days now…
Title: Re: UK2000 Airports in P3D 4.5 after the recent update.
Post by: Joe Porter on September 04, 2022, 07:03:48 pm
For anybody looking for SODE jetways for UK2000 EGLL in P3D.
Look here, this person has done all the work, and it works.
search ...UK 2000 HEATHROW XTREME EGLL.
2 posts, 1 dated Nov 23rd 2020, 2nd updtaed Feb 16th 2022.
Follow the instructions to the letter, with the correct updated installation of UK2000, Version 3.2

It’s good that people are finding fixes/workarounds, but we shouldn’t be doing this.

All this is a direct result of an update pushed with the release of GSX Pro for MSFS, the Devs need to sort this out as it’s their product not working how it used to…the joy of them trying to make 3 versions of the same product, work on 2 sims with 2 different engines, with the same common files.

FSX and P3D versions of GSX are bugged to no end at add on sceneries, and the devs have been pretty quiet for a few days now…

Hear, Hear!  Exactly! 
Title: Re: UK2000 Airports in P3D 4.5 after the recent update.
Post by: liamr685 on September 04, 2022, 09:46:20 pm
For anybody looking for SODE jetways for UK2000 EGLL in P3D.
Look here, this person has done all the work, and it works.
search ...UK 2000 HEATHROW XTREME EGLL.
2 posts, 1 dated Nov 23rd 2020, 2nd updtaed Feb 16th 2022.
Follow the instructions to the letter, with the correct updated installation of UK2000, Version 3.2

It’s good that people are finding fixes/workarounds, but we shouldn’t be doing this.

All this is a direct result of an update pushed with the release of GSX Pro for MSFS, the Devs need to sort this out as it’s their product not working how it used to…the joy of them trying to make 3 versions of the same product, work on 2 sims with 2 different engines, with the same common files.

FSX and P3D versions of GSX are bugged to no end at add on sceneries, and the devs have been pretty quiet for a few days now…

Hear, Hear!  Exactly!

I personally would like to think that a backup was taken prior to the release of this update, in the event of the product being unusable, that it could be rolled back. (Which I’ve seen done on various games I play) but this doesn’t seem to be the case.
GSX is near unusable at most add on sceneries and a rollback should have happened within a few days of this forum being flooded with bug reports stating how broke it was.
We aren’t talking about a few random bugs here, as we have seen, the core product is broke.
Title: Re: UK2000 Airports in P3D 4.5 after the recent update.
Post by: mwyatt on September 04, 2022, 10:15:43 pm
Hi, yes, I do take backups of my entire PC every week to an external drive, just as well that I do.
I now have 2 ADDON MANAGER folders inside my GSX folder, a PRE update folder (recovered from a backup), and a POST update folder, I obviously need to jig the folder names so that only one is active at any one time.
With the help of many other posters, renaming/removing/inhibiting INI files in the scenery folders and inside the VIRTUALI folder, and adding PARKINGSYSTEM = 0 to ALL the parking gates in airports that did not work post update, and the gentleman who gave the files to get SODE working at UK2000 Heathrow.
I can now flip between PRE update and POST update at will in a few seconds.
Now both PRE and POST UPDATE work correctly (as far as I am aware !!) for me, but it has been a struggle and many hours spent trying various fixes.
I will wait a while before getting GSX for MSFS. That is just a step too far at the moment !!!!!!!
I will gladly help anyone that needs a solution if I can.
Reply to this post if you wish.
Martin.
Title: Re: UK2000 Airports in P3D 4.5 after the recent update.
Post by: liamr685 on September 05, 2022, 09:18:59 am
Hi, yes, I do take backups of my entire PC every week to an external drive, just as well that I do.

Sorry, my comment was aimed at the developers. They should take a backup prior to any major update in the event of something...like this happens...


Ive tried the fixes mentioned on here:
parkingsystem = 0 on every gate
also tried downloading the .ini files from here
http://www.fsdreamteam.com/forum/index.php?topic=24557.0

And GSX still doesnt read the files.

The only way it works is if i remove both the EGLL INI from GSX, and the two INIs from the EGLL scenery folder, but, I dont have any animated jetways if i do this, GSX reverts to them being default and will not animate them.
Title: Re: UK2000 Airports in P3D 4.5 after the recent update.
Post by: mwyatt on September 05, 2022, 10:05:24 am
LIAMR685,
try downloading these 3 files and follow the instructions.
This restored SODE jetways for me at EGLL.
Martin.
P.S. These files are from another member, I do not claim any credit for them !!



Title: Re: UK2000 Airports in P3D 4.5 after the recent update.
Post by: liamr685 on September 05, 2022, 10:56:16 am
LIAMR685,
try downloading these 3 files and follow the instructions.
This restored SODE jetways for me at EGLL.
Martin.
P.S. These files are from another member, I do not claim any credit for them !!

Have done. GSX still won’t read them on my pc.
Title: Re: UK2000 Airports in P3D 4.5 after the recent update.
Post by: Devonquicks on September 05, 2022, 11:07:33 am
Hi, I run FSX and have the same problems with UK2000 Airports, worked well on previous upgrades but now get the error messages experienced by others using these airports. good luck sorting it all out.
Title: Re: UK2000 Airports in P3D 4.5 after the recent update.
Post by: mwyatt on September 05, 2022, 11:41:18 am
LIAMR685 ...
I had a fail at first.
I completely uninstalled UK2000 EGLL, then installed Heathrow 3.10, followed by UPDATE 3.12, then 3.20.Then installed the files as directed.
restart your PC and try again.
Make sure you have your licence code handy !!
Make sure there are no other EGLL ini files lying about.
Martin.
P.S. It takes all of 30 seconds for the jetways to appear after the gate is displayed on screen.
I have thought of a devious way of coping my original "Addon Manager" folder to your PC to try. Contact me directly if your are willing to try an experiment !!
Martin.
Title: Re: UK2000 Airports in P3D 4.5 after the recent update.
Post by: virtuali on September 05, 2022, 04:56:19 pm
A failure to associate an .INI file to a BGL might be caused by lacking support for long file paths in Windows, which might be enabled this way:

https://www.howtogeek.com/266621/how-to-make-windows-10-accept-file-paths-over-260-characters/
Title: Re: UK2000 Airports in P3D 4.5 after the recent update.
Post by: liamr685 on September 05, 2022, 05:32:55 pm
A failure to associate an .INI file to a BGL might be caused by lacking support for long file paths in Windows, which might be enabled this way:

https://www.howtogeek.com/266621/how-to-make-windows-10-accept-file-paths-over-260-characters/

Everything worked fine until the update was pushed alongside the release of GSX pro.
This isnt a windows problem.
its a GSX problem.

Surely youve changed some lines of code somewhere that make this work for MSFS, but dont translate into P3D.


***Edit***
Just out of curiosity, I checked long paths enabled, its already enabled on my PC, so 100% not the problem.
Title: Re: UK2000 Airports in P3D 4.5 after the recent update.
Post by: FOD on September 05, 2022, 06:29:19 pm
Liamr685
Have you redone the exclusion file for EGLL - I often find that after changing things I need to redo and recompile the exclusion fine to get things to work.  (Said from more than a weeks experience trying to get this “update” to work)
Title: Re: UK2000 Airports in P3D 4.5 after the recent update.
Post by: liamr685 on September 05, 2022, 06:45:30 pm
Liamr685
Have you redone the exclusion file for EGLL - I often find that after changing things I need to redo and recompile the exclusion fine to get things to work.  (Said from more than a weeks experience trying to get this “update” to work)

The file that gets dropped into the FSDreamTeam exclude folder?  Yes i do.
Unless theres something else im missing?
Title: Re: UK2000 Airports in P3D 4.5 after the recent update.
Post by: FOD on September 05, 2022, 06:58:33 pm
Then you need to shut down P3D and run the control panel to compile the file …..
Title: Re: UK2000 Airports in P3D 4.5 after the recent update.
Post by: liamr685 on September 05, 2022, 08:13:06 pm
Then you need to shut down P3D and run the control panel to compile the file …..

Yes I’ve ran it and tried enabling and disabling default jetways again.
Title: Re: UK2000 Airports in P3D 4.5 after the recent update.
Post by: virtuali on September 05, 2022, 08:52:42 pm
Please run the FSDT Live Update now, because we found an issue that resulted in an airport custom profile not being loaded.
Title: Re: UK2000 Airports in P3D 4.5 after the recent update.
Post by: liamr685 on September 05, 2022, 09:38:31 pm
Please run the FSDT Live Update now, because we found an issue that resulted in an airport custom profile not being loaded.

Hasnt worked

same as before

https://i.imgur.com/cYdXbLz.png (https://i.imgur.com/cYdXbLz.png)
Title: Re: UK2000 Airports in P3D 4.5 after the recent update.
Post by: virtuali on September 05, 2022, 11:04:26 pm
Then your error is not related to having loaded the wrong .INI, but possibly something else, please post a startup log at that airport, and possibly the .INI file you are using, which might have been loaded, but not correctly.
Title: Re: UK2000 Airports in P3D 4.5 after the recent update.
Post by: mleuck on September 05, 2022, 11:12:43 pm
Ran your suggested update with no change. Still a mess!
Title: Re: UK2000 Airports in P3D 4.5 after the recent update.
Post by: virtuali on September 05, 2022, 11:14:04 pm
Ran your suggested update with no change. Still a mess!

Please clarify what do you mean with "no change", which problem you have, exactly and what "still a mess" really means. As I've said, this update fixes ONLY ONE thing: a failure to load the correct GSX .INI profile for an airport, resulting in missing parking spots.

And please, don't cross-post the same reply in multiple threads. It doesn't make my job any easier. Quite the opposite.
Title: Re: UK2000 Airports in P3D 4.5 after the recent update.
Post by: liamr685 on September 06, 2022, 10:14:44 am
Then your error is not related to having loaded the wrong .INI, but possibly something else, please post a startup log at that airport, and possibly the .INI file you are using, which might have been loaded, but not correctly.

See attached below.

The only way currently to get GSX to recognise EGLL (Or any airport that doesnt have any stands showing) is to delete the .ini files in the appdata virtuali GSX folder, and any custom ini in the addon scenery folder, as highlighted below...But...This then leaves no animated jetways...GSX then beleived theyre all default and wont animate them...SODE then shows no objects nearby...

(https://i.imgur.com/vP2nzqt.png)


Also note, that all these CFGs in the image were not generated when I did a fresh install of GSX, even after regenerating airport cache, i had these backed up as they were already located in the folder before i did the update 3 weeks ago.

(https://i.imgur.com/g4SCHKA.png)


Another thing to note, the airport ini below doesnt have a path to the UK2000 EGLL scenery folder, like other UK2000 sceneries do.

I have also included EGKK and EGCC

EGKK Works fully for me, jetways move, i beleive all stands show.
EGCC Works partially, all stands show, but no animated jetways (SODE says there no triggerable objects within 12km)
The same at flytampa dubai, all gates work, no animated jetways, SODE says nothing there.

One thing I do find odd, is Taxi2Gate OTHH V2 works fully, absolutely no issues as of yet...but i cant find a single .ini for it.

Ive had to convert the .log to .txt files as the forum wouldn't let me upload it.
Title: Re: UK2000 Airports in P3D 4.5 after the recent update.
Post by: virtuali on September 06, 2022, 10:20:43 am
Also note, that all these CFGs in the image were not generated when I did a fresh install of GSX, even after regenerating airport cache, i had these backed up as they were already located in the folder before i did the update 3 weeks ago.

GSX is not supposed to generate or regenerate these files automatically, under any situation, those are your edits to the airport, the only way to generate them is to...edit the airport so, if you remove that folder and don't have a backup, they are lost.
Title: Re: UK2000 Airports in P3D 4.5 after the recent update.
Post by: liamr685 on September 06, 2022, 10:26:33 am
Also note, that all these CFGs in the image were not generated when I did a fresh install of GSX, even after regenerating airport cache, i had these backed up as they were already located in the folder before i did the update 3 weeks ago.

GSX is not supposed to generate or regenerate these files automatically, under any situation, those are your edits to the airport, the only way to generate them is to...edit the airport so, if you remove that folder and don't have a backup, they are lost.

Odd, as I have never edited an airport.
I've edited aircraft but not airports.

Perfect example is the LEMG scenery ini i posted, that was the last scenery i purchased, and have only ever flown into it, i havent once opened the GSX airport or aircraft editor at that location, so it's odd there an ini in that folder.

**I just edited my post above before i saw that you commented too, about getting EGLL to work**



Title: Re: UK2000 Airports in P3D 4.5 after the recent update.
Post by: virtuali on September 06, 2022, 10:34:29 am
Odd, as I have never edited an airport. I've edited aircraft but not airports.

Then you must have downloaded files made by somebody else who edited that airport. It's the only way you would have any airport files in the GSX airport profiles.
Title: Re: UK2000 Airports in P3D 4.5 after the recent update.
Post by: liamr685 on September 06, 2022, 10:37:53 am
Odd, as I have never edited an airport. I've edited aircraft but not airports.

Then you must have downloaded files made by somebody else who edited that airport. It's the only way you would have any airport files in the GSX airport profiles.

I have never been into the Appdata/Virtuali folder before the update dropped that ruined GSX in P3d. I genuinly have no idea how they got there.

Also...Ive just loaded up at LEMG...All gates show...No Animated jetways, GSX believes theyre all default (Default jetways disabled in the FSDT GSX Control Panel, it wont even let me click the 'compile check excludes' button)
FlyTampa OMDB - No Animated Jetways
UK2000 (Various Airports) - No Gates & No Animated Jetways
Aerosoft/SimWings LEMG - No Animated Jetways

See attached for EGLL .ini located in parent UK2000 Heathrow folder.
Title: Re: UK2000 Airports in P3D 4.5 after the recent update.
Post by: virtuali on September 06, 2022, 11:12:47 am
I have never been into the Appdata/Virtuali folder before the update dropped that ruined GSX in P3d. I genuinly have no idea how they got there.

As I've said, the only possible reasons why you have files there are:

- You opened the GSX customization editor to change *anything*, even something minor like choosing the operator or the parking radius.

OR

- You downloaded a pre-made profile made by somebody.


There are no other ways to end up with any GSX airport profiles other than these two.
Title: Re: UK2000 Airports in P3D 4.5 after the recent update.
Post by: liamr685 on September 06, 2022, 11:23:54 am
I have never been into the Appdata/Virtuali folder before the update dropped that ruined GSX in P3d. I genuinly have no idea how they got there.

As I've said, the only possible reasons why you have files there are:

- You opened the GSX customization editor to change *anything*, even something minor like choosing the operator or the parking radius.

OR

- You downloaded a pre-made profile made by somebody.


There are no other ways to end up with any GSX airport profiles other than these two.

Ahhhhhh ok, custom pushback will have done it.