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Title: This parking is isolated - again!
Post by: FOD on August 26, 2022, 01:26:12 pm
After several days trying, yesterday I finally had GSX working after seversl off line install attempts  and using the Univeral Uodater..
 FSDT airfields we’re installed ok and working when I shut down for the night.
Today I booted the pc to set up a flight and when it loaded at LSGG, I was told the parking slot was isolated etc etc. I tried the updater again with no change.
So again my GSX is useless.
Appreciate your problems but if this version cannot be fixed and as asked before, could we not have copies of an earlier version for P3D users
Grateful for any help
Title: Re: This parking is isolated - again!
Post by: Papacoach on August 26, 2022, 02:00:09 pm
It appears that couatl/gsx is not seeing/reading ini files correctly, but I can't find a common cause. If you remove/delete the ini files the gates/parking will reappear. But you'll lose any airport customization you've done! You'll need to start over with customization.

Hopefully there is a better solution coming.
Title: Re: This parking is isolated - again!
Post by: FOD on August 26, 2022, 04:55:51 pm
Only one ini file in the addon manager - for FDDT LSGG. I deleted that but it made no difference  - still getting the isolated parking error!
After all the years using GSX, I do have sympathy for Umberto - something has obviously gone seriously wrong with the MSFS launch. A pity we do not have a separate downloaded for P3D only.
Title: Re: This parking is isolated - again!
Post by: smiley on August 29, 2022, 08:07:10 am
Guys have had the same problem, with airports where I have the isolated gate issue,  uninstalling and reinstalling the scenery has fixed the issue for me.

Hope this helps. I know not ideal solution but try this.


Cheers miles
Title: Re: This parking is isolated - again!
Post by: liamr685 on August 29, 2022, 10:18:51 am
Guys have had the same problem, with airports where I have the isolated gate issue,  uninstalling and reinstalling the scenery has fixed the issue for me.

Hope this helps. I know not ideal solution but try this.


Cheers miles

Annoyingly any of the fixes other people have used, don’t work for others, which is weird.

I’ve tried removing the INI files, and doing a reinstall of scenery, yet the bug still persists.
Title: Re: This parking is isolated - again!
Post by: FOD on August 29, 2022, 01:54:22 pm
The problem is that it covers all scenery airfields  -  default or add-on so you cannot just reinstall one. .  After several hours yesterday, I found it working ok, then this morning, it suddenly started again giving me that error - so I’m now back to square one.
Oh for a copy of the files before this updare ……….
Title: Re: This parking is isolated - again!
Post by: tonyg59 on August 29, 2022, 09:10:10 pm
Hi Everyone,

I believe I have found the root cause of all our GSX gate/parking space grief since the update
of the new GSX, for all us P3Dv4/v5 users.

I too was suffering with some airports reporting no available gate/parking available for GSX to use
and when checking the GSX customise airport option it would only return 0 or 1 parking/gate in the list.

After a day of testing and investigation on P3Dv5 I have narrowed down the problem to be a missing entry
from the .ini files that are used by GSX to determine the available gates/parking for a given airport.
That is why some have reported that if they removed the .ini files it solved the problem. A little too
drastic for my taste as you would end up with all your user config's for each airport being lost !!

Let me explain my finding's right or wrong, but it fixed it for me and may provide help for Umberto to fix
the cause. Some of the airports I use worked OK but many didn't. It appears that a change
has been made in the new GSX that requires a mandatory entry in the .ini against every gate/parking section otherwise GSX does
not read the file. This entry is as follows if missing.

parkingsystem = 0    <--  add this to each (gate/parking) entry (if missing) in affected airport scenery .ini file.

0 is for "no parking system" but it may be another value depending on what's configured as long as the entry exist with a value.
it will work. You can change this from within GSX once a entry is added to the .ini file to reflect the correct type of parking system.

Please note that there may be .ini files in the scenery it self provided by the author which contains the parking/gates.
Each entry must contain the above line as well. Also note that if modified by GSX in the past a .ini file will exist under
AppData/Roaming/virtuali/GSX for that airport change this as well. Be aware to back these changes up otherwise if the scenery is updated
or reinstalled they may be over written.

Here is an example modified entry only add to parking and gate sections NOT general:

--------Original entry

[parking 508]
pushback_pos = 52.45213212 -1.753793889 -34.26481628
radiusleft = 25.0
pushbacklabels = Nose Right/Tail Left (LEFT)|Nose Left/Tail Right (RIGHT)
loadertype = 3 3
disablemarshaller = 0
radiusright = 25.0
hasjetway = 0
nopassengerstairs = 0
pushback = 2
maxwingspan = 38.0
nopassengerbus = 0

[gate 80]
pushback_pos = 52.45565599 -1.736573393 -0.5985565186
radiusleft = 16.0
baggage_loader_front_pos = 52.45585525 -1.736686094 100.4014435
pushbacklabels = Nose Right/Tail Left (LEFT)|Nose Left/Tail Right (RIGHT)
loadertype = 1 1
stairs_front_pos = 52.45557146 -1.736458785 10.40144348
disablemarshaller = 1
radiusright = 12.8
baggage_loader_rear_pos = 52.45601709 -1.73633374 -122.5985565
hasjetway = 0
nopassengerstairs = 0
pushback = 3
maxwingspan = 32.0
stairs_rear_pos = 52.45573911 -1.736000719 -124.5985565
nopassengerbus = 0

------- Modded working entry

[parking 508]
parkingsystem = 0
pushback_pos = 52.45213212 -1.753793889 -34.26481628
radiusleft = 25.0
pushbacklabels = Nose Right/Tail Left (LEFT)|Nose Left/Tail Right (RIGHT)
loadertype = 3 3
disablemarshaller = 0
radiusright = 25.0
hasjetway = 0
nopassengerstairs = 0
pushback = 2
maxwingspan = 38.0
nopassengerbus = 0

[gate 80]
parkingsystem = 0
pushback_pos = 52.45565599 -1.736573393 -0.5985565186
radiusleft = 16.0
baggage_loader_front_pos = 52.45585525 -1.736686094 100.4014435
pushbacklabels = Nose Right/Tail Left (LEFT)|Nose Left/Tail Right (RIGHT)
loadertype = 1 1
stairs_front_pos = 52.45557146 -1.736458785 10.40144348
disablemarshaller = 1
radiusright = 12.8
baggage_loader_rear_pos = 52.45601709 -1.73633374 -122.5985565
hasjetway = 0
nopassengerstairs = 0
pushback = 3
maxwingspan = 32.0
stairs_rear_pos = 52.45573911 -1.736000719 -124.5985565
nopassengerbus = 0

Hope this Workaround help's some of you also get up and running again.

Tony
Title: Re: This parking is isolated - again!
Post by: FOD on August 30, 2022, 01:57:50 pm
Interesting option but afraid did not solve my problems which I have isolated to one group of add-on airfields - other such as default and FSDT developed airfields are ok.
My group is about 10 UK2000 airfields which were developed before about 2019 - all were ok with previous GSX versions - since the update they all  are unuseable.

Title: Re: This parking is isolated - again!
Post by: Pete Dowson on August 30, 2022, 02:24:37 pm
I've applied the recent update for GSX and my other FSDT products, and successfully used it for an LFPG departure.

But, like the original post in this thread, on arrival at LSGG, I can't find a gate which isn't declared by GSX as being "isolated", so it refuses to provide any services. This is very odd, especially considering the LSGG scenery I have is by DreamTeam and was seemingly updated at the same time.

I don't have any user modifications to taxiways or gate properties at this airport.

Surely this must be a bug -- so why has Umberto, or at least an FSDT support person not chipped in yet?

Pete Dowson
Title: Re: This parking is isolated - again!
Post by: mwyatt on August 30, 2022, 04:17:37 pm
Hi, P3D v4.5.14.34698. Win 11 Build 22622.
I also have a problem at Heathrow EGLL, UK2000 scenery.
After the latest update I have only 1 parking slot available.
Tried, deleting the relevant INI file from Roaming/Virtuali/Gsx, made no difference.
Tried, adding ParkingSystem = 0 to the file, made no difference.
Reverting to a saved GSX/AddonManager from 10 days ago makes it work again.
Is there a fix for this remaining problem ??
Other than this problem, the recent fixes seem to be working.
Good work by the team at FSDT so far !!
Best regards, Martin.
Title: Re: This parking is isolated - again!
Post by: FOD on August 30, 2022, 06:39:07 pm
Just to show how difficult it must be for Umberto and the team -

I have 10 UK2000 airports:

One is the new EGGW 2020 HD - works perfectly in all gsx versions
Two - EGNM and EGCC now work after I changed the AFCAD to one of the options available
The remaining 7 all refuse to read the AFCAD - altho’ showing it correctly in GSX - whatever changes I make.

All of course read the AFCAD correctly using a pre-update version of GSX …….


Title: Re: This parking is isolated - again!
Post by: joergalv on August 30, 2022, 07:13:13 pm

...
parkingsystem = 0    <--  add this to each (gate/parking) entry (if missing) in affected airport scenery .ini file.
..


Thanks Tony!  Great find! This worked for me in FSDT LSGG.
Title: Re: This parking is isolated - again!
Post by: captaintango27 on August 31, 2022, 01:28:08 am
Just gonna throw my issue airport into the mix so others can possibly double check as well. I got SunSkyJet KPHL no longer working. Worked perfectly before, just flew there in April and had no issues with GSX, and now getting the same error as everyone else... "This parking is isolated."
Title: Re: This parking is isolated - again!
Post by: Ray Proudfoot on August 31, 2022, 04:05:06 pm
I'm glad I found this topic. Running P3Dv5.3 HF2 and with GSX not updated for several weeks (and Chicago installed a couple of years ago) I cannot use any services at FSDT KORDV2. The Isolated message appears at many gates.

I'll monitor this topic and hopefully a fix can be found.
Title: Re: This parking is isolated - again!
Post by: Maxje121 on September 01, 2022, 08:24:15 am
Hi everyone,

This morning I received a messages in P3D v4 that a update was available. I run the update and now GSX is not working again.

It`s not loading at all, even when I`m trying to re-load GSX in P3D it`s not responding.

Please GSX, try to fix this asap!

Best regards,

Max

Quick update: All FSDT airport are not loading as well. Just checked at KCLT and KLAX but I only see black shadows were buildings should be standing
Title: Re: This parking is isolated - again!
Post by: elac1 on September 01, 2022, 08:46:09 am
Same issue on this end. Does not respond to neither the Ctrl+Shift+F12 nor the GSX menu option.

P3D v4.5
Title: Re: This parking is isolated - again!
Post by: liamr685 on September 01, 2022, 09:31:13 am
I hope that, sooner or later, the Dev realises that trying to get 3 version of the same product, to run on 2 different sims, with 2 different engines, all using common files, wont work.

Only solution in my mind is standalone installers for each product & sim.
Title: Re: This parking is isolated - again!
Post by: G-AZZA on September 01, 2022, 10:46:46 am
Hi everyone,

This morning I received a messages in P3D v4 that a update was available. I run the update and now GSX is not working again.

It`s not loading at all, even when I`m trying to re-load GSX in P3D it`s not responding.

Please GSX, try to fix this asap!

Best regards,

Max

Quick update: All FSDT airport are not loading as well. Just checked at KCLT and KLAX but I only see black shadows were buildings should be standing

Same here again

G-AZZA
Title: Re: This parking is isolated - again!
Post by: srcooke on September 04, 2022, 10:13:16 am
@tonyg59

I applied your fix to FSDT KMEM and the isolated parking is resolved, fixed file is attached.

Have no idea why my own edit of LSGG did not work or why some .ini files without that entry still actually work.

Title: Re: This parking is isolated - again!
Post by: Pete Dowson on September 04, 2022, 12:24:36 pm
@tonyg59

I applied your fix to FSDT KMEM and the isolated parking is resolved, fixed file is attached.

Have no idea why my own edit of LSGG did not work or why some .ini files without that entry still actually work.

I inserted "parkingsystem=0" into the details of every gate that didn't already have a "parkingsystem=n" (with various n values). That worked for me, so thanks @tonyg59.

Pete
Title: Re: This parking is isolated - again!
Post by: Ray Proudfoot on September 04, 2022, 02:49:45 pm
I am not on the latest version but am still experiencing the isolated parking issue. Looking at FSDT KORDv2 I'm positioned at gate C1 which has an entry of 8 for the parking position.

No services are available. Here's the GSX Customise Airport menu. Any reason why 8 is not an acceptable value? This scenery has been installed for years.

@Pete Dowson, how did you change so many ini files in such a short time? Manually or a little program?
Title: Re: This parking is isolated - again!
Post by: Pete Dowson on September 04, 2022, 05:12:12 pm
@Pete Dowson, how did you change so many ini files in such a short time? Manually or a little program?

I only changed LSGG, the one I had the problem with.

If I get a problem with further airports I'll edit the INI as I experience this. But if it's only FSDT airports, I've only got one more of those (LFSB).

Pete
Title: Re: This parking is isolated - again!
Post by: Ray Proudfoot on September 04, 2022, 05:21:38 pm

I only changed LSGG, the one I had the problem with.

If I get a problem with further airports I'll edit the INI as I experience this. But if it's only FSDT airports, I've only got one more of those (LFSB).

Pete

Thanks for that Pete. In P3D v3 and v5 I was able to use the gate facilities at UK2000 EGCC.

With over 100 ini files I’m hoping this problem is limited to FSDT and perhaps Flightbeam airports. Those total around 15 or so.

I imagine Umberto will make some form of announcement when a definitive solution is found. I do find it irritating it’s not easy to find the version number of GSX or Couatl64.exe - Which ever is the controlling program. Without knowing what the latest version is I have no way of knowing how far behind I am. I keep ignoring the option to update.
Title: Re: This parking is isolated - again!
Post by: srcooke on September 04, 2022, 06:03:14 pm
@Ray Proudfoot

Ray, I tested C1 push with the default afcad and gsx .ini without issue.

I notice you have a custom .ini file in use.
Title: Re: This parking is isolated - again!
Post by: Papacoach on September 04, 2022, 06:06:25 pm
Without knowing what the latest version is I have no way of knowing how far behind I am. I keep ignoring the option to update.

My understanding is that latest version is, couatl v4.8 (build 4817) which is found in the couatl.log in ...appdate/roaming/virtuali
Title: Re: This parking is isolated - again!
Post by: Ray Proudfoot on September 04, 2022, 06:28:02 pm
@Ray Proudfoot

Ray, I tested C1 push with the default afcad and gsx .ini without issue.

I notice you have a custom .ini file in use.

Stephen, I wondered if it was a Cartanya one but his usually include his name and mine didn’t. I’ll investigate tomorrow. But in any case why is GSX suddenly not compatible with these long-standing ini files?

What has changed and why? It shouldn’t be necessary for the user to change their files to ensure GSX works as it used to.
Title: Re: This parking is isolated - again!
Post by: Ray Proudfoot on September 04, 2022, 06:29:08 pm

My understanding is that latest version is, couatl v4.8 (build 4817) which is found in the couatl.log in ...appdate/roaming/virtuali

Thanks, I’ll check mine tomorrow.
Title: Re: This parking is isolated - again!
Post by: Maxje121 on September 05, 2022, 11:29:40 am
Hi Umberto,

Could you please give us a update regarding the failure of GSX in P3D?

You`ve been radio silent for quite some time now. And we really want to now when GSX is fully working again.

Best regards,

Max Reijnders
Title: Re: This parking is isolated - again!
Post by: Ray Proudfoot on September 05, 2022, 11:29:52 am
My version is 4.0 (build 3642). Obviously well behind v4.8 (build 4817).

I'm copying the entire contents of Addon Manager to another drive so I can restore if needed. My gut feeling is still to hold fire updating until Umberto comes out with an announcement.
Title: Re: This parking is isolated - again!
Post by: liamr685 on September 05, 2022, 12:02:45 pm
My version is 4.0 (build 3642). Obviously well behind v4.8 (build 4817).

I'm copying the entire contents of Addon Manager to another drive so I can restore if needed. My gut feeling is still to hold fire updating until Umberto comes out with an announcement.

Take a backup, but 100% do not update.
Title: Re: This parking is isolated - again!
Post by: Ray Proudfoot on September 05, 2022, 12:45:18 pm
Take a backup, but 100% do not update.

Yep, my cautious nature has won. I've only encountered the one problem at KORD. Default and other airports seem fine.  :)
Title: Re: This parking is isolated - again!
Post by: virtuali on September 05, 2022, 04:49:05 pm
I don't even know what the problems you are having, exactly.  No FSDT airports works ? Just tried FSDT KLAX on P3D 4.5 now, it surely loads, GSX menu works and jetways work:



Nothing special to do, other than having the latest update installed.
Title: Re: This parking is isolated - again!
Post by: virtuali on September 05, 2022, 04:50:53 pm
Yep, my cautious nature has won. I've only encountered the one problem at KORD. Default and other airports seem fine.  :)

Please indicate the parking that gives that error, because a couple I tried works normally.
Title: Re: This parking is isolated - again!
Post by: villaloha on September 05, 2022, 05:03:56 pm
Not just FSDT's airport, Imaginesim, FlyTampa, Tropicalsim and such does not work. Before you updated, many gates were available and were able to use fuel truck. After update, it's a huge disaster! Can't use fuel truck and extremely limited gates.

I certainly hope you value your customers especially who are still using 4.5. What we feel like is we paid food and they brought wrong food, lots of missing food and such. Can't do that. Please resepct and restore the version for 4.5. as it has been too long we have not be able to use GSX.
Title: Re: This parking is isolated - again!
Post by: Ray Proudfoot on September 05, 2022, 05:20:33 pm

Please indicate the parking that gives that error, because a couple I tried works normally.

It was C1 at KORD and the ini file has parking position=8. Is that the same as yours because it seems I may have a custom ini. But I’ve had it for years without any problems.

My version is 4.0 (build 3642). Given reverting to an earlier version requires the whole AddonManager folder to be replaced what would you suggest?


Title: Re: This parking is isolated - again!
Post by: virtuali on September 05, 2022, 07:00:46 pm
I certainly hope you value your customers especially who are still using 4.5. What we feel like is we paid food and they brought wrong food, lots of missing food and such. Can't do that. Please resepct and restore the version for 4.5. as it has been too long we have not be able to use GSX.

Let's take things one step at a time. I NEVER said I'm sure GSX works 100% bug-free in P3D 4.5, I replied to a post saying it doesn't even load at FSDT KLAX and there are no buildings so, I just tried that.
Title: Re: This parking is isolated - again!
Post by: WictorWictor on September 06, 2022, 01:20:12 am
Please indicate the parking that gives that error

I just reinstalled after a long break from flight simming. None of the parking spots at Flightbeam KSFO seem to be working. Updated Flightbeam, FSDT, SODE. Regenerated airport and reloaded all. This fixed it for FlyTampa KBOS, but not Flightbeam KSFO. EGLL professional jetways are also not working.

Flightbeam has some of the nicest looking airports out there so I would hope they are in the set of airports tested after each update. Happy to help with future releases if you are looking for more team members!
Title: Re: This parking is isolated - again!
Post by: joergalv on September 06, 2022, 04:48:12 pm
I don't even know what the problems you are having, exactly.  No FSDT airports works ? Just tried FSDT KLAX on P3D 4.5 now, it surely loads, GSX menu works and jetways work:

Nothing special to do, other than having the latest update installed.

Umberto,
sorry no. The latest update did not resolve the parking is isolated issue at FSDT LSGG.

Have you read http://www.fsdreamteam.com/forum/index.php/topic,27002.msg177973.html#msg177973 (http://www.fsdreamteam.com/forum/index.php/topic,27002.msg177973.html#msg177973)?

Seems his proposed steps are solving this issue. At least it did it for me in FSDT LSGG.

Regards
Joerg