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Title: (fixed) GSX LEVEL 2 EXPANSION PROBLEM 15min DELAY FOR BUS
Post by: stewart on September 08, 2018, 02:26:29 am
Hi all i have just installed the gtx level 2 and entered the code but now when i select board or un board only the fuel truck and loading platform is moving. The baggage car just sits there intill the bus comes 15min latter????. Im using gsx at nzns airport use to work fine before update
Title: Re: GSX LEVEL 2 EXPANSION PROBLEM
Post by: stewart on September 08, 2018, 05:44:18 am
I just installed a old ver of gsx ground and now everything is moving. So yea something wrong with the new ver ???.
Title: Re: GSX LEVEL 2 EXPANSION PROBLEM
Post by: virtuali on September 08, 2018, 11:09:39 am
There are no problems with the new version. Install it again, and describe the problem more precisely, so we can tell you what's wrong.
Title: Re: GSX LEVEL 2 EXPANSION PROBLEM
Post by: stewart on September 08, 2018, 12:43:50 pm
Hi its hard to explain but here is a video of the problem. But some of the selections are not working eg the video when deboard plane is selected the cargo ramp will go to the plane but the cargo cars will not move. as well the bus never comes. If i install a older ver they move and the bus comes but of cause no people as its the old ver then when i install the latest ver thats when the problems happen. Please see the video https://www.dropbox.com/s/dpscd5dbxpkf568/p3d.flv?dl=0 thanks.
Title: Re: GSX LEVEL 2 EXPANSION PROBLEM
Post by: stewart on September 08, 2018, 02:42:28 pm
Ok so it is working i only found out it was working by turning up the sim speed to max. So i timed it and from the time you press request board or un board passengers it takes 15min in till the bus comes and after that it will load the luggage. So is that a set time or can i change it don't really want to sit here for 15min waiting.
Title: Re: GSX LEVEL 2 EXPANSION PROBLEM
Post by: pete_auau on September 08, 2018, 02:53:15 pm
Ok so it is working i only found out it was working by turning up the sim speed to max. So i timed it and from the time you press request board or un board passengers it takes 15min in till the bus comes and after that it will load the luggage. So is that a set time or can i change it don't really want to sit here for 15min waiting.
15  minutes  that's  quicker  than  real  time  boarding  :)
Title: Re: GSX LEVEL 2 EXPANSION PROBLEM
Post by: stewart on September 08, 2018, 03:18:26 pm
Yea lol but i want it like the old ver press it and it arrives in like 30sec-1min sort of thing
Title: Re: GSX LEVEL 2 EXPANSION PROBLEM
Post by: virtuali on September 08, 2018, 03:44:26 pm
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Yea lol but i want it like the old ver press it and it arrives in like 30sec-1min sort of thing

Nothing has changed in this version in relationship to the time it takes to board luggage or the time it takes for the bus to arrive. Could you please try a default airport ? It's possible the scenery AFCAD has an issue which is causing the bus to not arrive, or take an unrealistic route.
Title: Re: GSX LEVEL 2 EXPANSION PROBLEM
Post by: stewart on September 08, 2018, 04:00:00 pm
I tried 4 different airports but takes the same amount of time 15min. It was fine on the old ver using same airports all i did was instill the new ver using the full installer hmmmmmmm. I even did a map view where i could see the whole airport and its a small one and i saw the bus after about 15min pop up and drive straight to the plane witch would of been like 1 min away
Title: Re: GSX LEVEL 2 EXPANSION PROBLEM
Post by: virtuali on September 08, 2018, 04:28:49 pm
With "I tried 4 different airport", do you mean they were all default, as I asked ? If yes, please tell exactly which airports you tried and which gates.
Title: Re: GSX LEVEL 2 EXPANSION PROBLEM
Post by: stewart on September 08, 2018, 11:35:34 pm
nzns gate 1 15 min wait
nznv gate 1 15 min wait
nzch gate 12 15 min wait
nzwn gate 12 (jetway) passengers unloaded straight away other services followed after

Default airports seems to be ok on a jet way just not the bus
Title: Re: GSX LEVEL 2 EXPANSION PROBLEM
Post by: virtuali on September 08, 2018, 11:38:40 pm
Have you tried a different airplane ?
Title: Re: GSX LEVEL 2 EXPANSION PROBLEM
Post by: Raphael on September 08, 2018, 11:43:31 pm
Same problem.   Tested at ORBX KJAC and Carenado SF34.   The passenger vehicle stais behind the aircraft and nothing happen.   I cant access the menu after that, and i cant restart Coualt neither.   I will reinstall GSX1 + GSX2 and update after my current flight a see what happens....  ???
Title: Re: GSX LEVEL 2 EXPANSION PROBLEM
Post by: stewart on September 08, 2018, 11:45:27 pm
yep a few others same thing
Title: Re: GSX LEVEL 2 EXPANSION PROBLEM
Post by: UAL4life on September 08, 2018, 11:51:57 pm
Yeah I ran into this once at FSDT KLAX already with the CS757RR. I think restarting he sim made it work.
Title: Re: GSX LEVEL 2 EXPANSION PROBLEM
Post by: stewart on September 08, 2018, 11:58:47 pm
Yeah I ran into this once at FSDT KLAX already with the CS757RR. I think restarting he sim made it work.

lol i have restarted like 50 times, reinstalled the software over and over still the same whats weird is everything works fine if i reinstall the old ver just no animated passengers and stuff. Thing is if it works on the old ver then this new ver should be all good no settings are changed at all. Well i should say it is working but just that 15min wait for the bus at every airport (jetways seem fine)
Title: Re: GSX LEVEL 2 EXPANSION PROBLEM
Post by: Raphael on September 09, 2018, 12:44:44 am
Nop, same problem after restarting and activating it....

I re-downloaded the file( a bit confusing because its the same file for GSX and GSX2...i though were 2 separated files).   Reinstalled, and activated it....  But, same problem at KRIW(Different airport).  The passenger vehicle stays there and do nothing.....    I can hear its engine during the whole flight and i can not use coualt menu anymore(wont do anything)....

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/IoCWdnk-sBOMSuuhVeetxbg4KIjQMDdvqqcodLERsCy5qwCxBC__lwhEHmq7T1TC0s4amBSiA07ik0pH2qSc9tpgdinqUcEzs74RHRWpdNsrZxdRiCVWm63FmuNFnRrh3uDTipVMCVhhlykQ1agFyom8FEaXdfzeYIS11csh7-pj1iL5P1u1uVuf31y86YWSGp-00adFjO9GexPw0poMxsotvXRnh3Z19U0F2ShBl0fN09Ve-9hyheUgYF8u7EB2Hc_xrnxFS2bW75E6L1RhBFjpPjpf_Fo74DE_0OiLfm1w7pTh5KRBLRTzeXSdoDPnLjtUbpCBfS0wwMMj4SKisBMPWV0cqKiwziT4EyPXV3b7YtD_7CrtpdUmQlsQopvdAsSahDcT_ZZdUHfnWfGiwvaYUQdbzYGVvpFYgoVhuT37ZFtBEQHMqugdNHJlm5LPeWV3lzJUOHPCEf9vIjPUMJGvTgga8Y-UIF5YWX2JVjoDFyURNccpsJpxSmQeUZ4kyB6meemTSXjtb1Hv8Uq3rFBbylHON4YvJ7agEkmg-NIzqnWkJspcrXgkeAdf0Ay-RzOKwkRH-cMAgeX0UiPVG1T-QcoS6ciCXMzS5ul5e1ktOf0o9De1Ck3tjGJH5Fk=w896-h429-no (https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/IoCWdnk-sBOMSuuhVeetxbg4KIjQMDdvqqcodLERsCy5qwCxBC__lwhEHmq7T1TC0s4amBSiA07ik0pH2qSc9tpgdinqUcEzs74RHRWpdNsrZxdRiCVWm63FmuNFnRrh3uDTipVMCVhhlykQ1agFyom8FEaXdfzeYIS11csh7-pj1iL5P1u1uVuf31y86YWSGp-00adFjO9GexPw0poMxsotvXRnh3Z19U0F2ShBl0fN09Ve-9hyheUgYF8u7EB2Hc_xrnxFS2bW75E6L1RhBFjpPjpf_Fo74DE_0OiLfm1w7pTh5KRBLRTzeXSdoDPnLjtUbpCBfS0wwMMj4SKisBMPWV0cqKiwziT4EyPXV3b7YtD_7CrtpdUmQlsQopvdAsSahDcT_ZZdUHfnWfGiwvaYUQdbzYGVvpFYgoVhuT37ZFtBEQHMqugdNHJlm5LPeWV3lzJUOHPCEf9vIjPUMJGvTgga8Y-UIF5YWX2JVjoDFyURNccpsJpxSmQeUZ4kyB6meemTSXjtb1Hv8Uq3rFBbylHON4YvJ7agEkmg-NIzqnWkJspcrXgkeAdf0Ay-RzOKwkRH-cMAgeX0UiPVG1T-QcoS6ciCXMzS5ul5e1ktOf0o9De1Ck3tjGJH5Fk=w896-h429-no)

I will test with another aircraft after this flight...
Title: Re: GSX LEVEL 2 EXPANSION PROBLEM
Post by: stewart on September 09, 2018, 12:58:42 am
Yea i had that problem as well when the bus got stuck but that was when i tried to customize the plane doors in gsx. when i did this the bus was sitting close to the plane as soon as i request it but did not move and froze gsx. Went back to default and my original problem is still hunting me.
Title: Re: GSX LEVEL 2 EXPANSION PROBLEM
Post by: virtuali on September 09, 2018, 01:01:35 am
Please describe your procedure EXACTLY as you did, and include everything:

- the airplane used

- the scenery used. If it's not default, specify the scenery. If possible, try to reproduce it on a default airport or an FSDT airport.

- the exact sequence of the operations selected in GSX, including how many passengers you had.
Title: Re: GSX LEVEL 2 EXPANSION PROBLEM
Post by: stewart on September 09, 2018, 01:15:21 am
#1 loaded the MJC8Q400 plane from http://majesticsoftware.com into the airport nznv (default) on gate 1
#2 opened all doors pressed shift E 1,2,3,4
#3 opened gsx (ctrl shift F12) and requested unboarding.
#4 entered 30 passengers when it ask how Meany
#5 waited 15min then the bus turned up and everything worked eg unloaded passengers, then unloaded baggage
#6 repeated for a number of other airports (default and not)

Im running orbx south and north island newzealand but have also tried other country's
I dont have any FSDT airports sorry i only have all orbx stuff
Title: Re: GSX LEVEL 2 EXPANSION PROBLEM
Post by: keithorton on September 09, 2018, 02:16:55 am
I’m having the same issue as stewart.  When using the Carenado Phenom 300, I do the boarding procedure, the bus comes, but as soon as the green boarding message on the top of the screen shows up, everything freezes in GSX.  The baggage carts stop, the bus is just spinning it’s wheels in place, and the sound of the bus & baggage carts engines can still be heard, even after closing P3D to desktop.  When I Ctrl-Alt-Delete, I “end task” on Couatl engine, which stops the sound.  When I tried it with the Citation Mustang, nothing freezes up, but there are no visible passengers or crew exiting the bus & van.  It’ll say “crew boarded” and “passenger 1/4, 2/4 etc boarded” but there’s no animations.  Is that because it’s a business jet and not a commercial plane?  And I don’t know what the issue is with the Phenom.  I saw that it’s not listed as “supported”, but it worked fine with regular GSX.  Anyway, I hope this helps you with getting the bottom of the issue.  Thanks!
Title: Re: GSX LEVEL 2 EXPANSION PROBLEM
Post by: stewart on September 09, 2018, 02:23:20 am
I’m having the same issue as stewart.  When using the Carenado Phenom 300, I do the boarding procedure, the bus comes, but as soon as the green boarding message on the top of the screen shows up, everything freezes in GSX.  The baggage carts stop, the bus is just spinning it’s wheels in place, and the sound of the bus & baggage carts engines can still be heard, even after closing P3D to desktop.  When I Ctrl-Alt-Delete, I “end task” on Couatl engine, which stops the sound.  When I tried it with the Citation Mustang, nothing freezes up, but there are no visible passengers or crew exiting the bus & van.  It’ll say “crew boarded” and “passenger 1/4, 2/4 etc boarded” but there’s no animations.  Is that because it’s a business jet and not a commercial plane?  And I don’t know what the issue is with the Phenom.  I saw that it’s not listed as “supported”, but it worked fine with regular GSX.  Anyway, I hope this helps you with getting the bottom of the issue.  Thanks!

Your problem is a little different to mine. My problem is that it works BUT it takes 15min on the dot before the bus turns up this on any airport (jetways seem to work and unload/ load passengers right away just the bus have a time delay for some reasion
Title: Re: GSX LEVEL 2 EXPANSION PROBLEM
Post by: keithorton on September 09, 2018, 03:41:17 am


Your problem is a little different to mine. My problem is that it works BUT it takes 15min on the dot before the bus turns up this on any airport (jetways seem to work and unload/ load passengers right away just the bus have a time delay for some reasion

Oh yeah.. it was Raphael that is having my problem.  He’s the only one I could see that was having a problem similar to mine.  Are the planes you’re using all bigger commercial planes?  They’re not smaller business jets?  I had just assumed the animated passengers & crew would show up regardless of whether it’s a bigger plane or smaller ones like the Mustang & Phenom.  I noticed when trying it on the Mustang that the passenger shuttles move really slow, but it doesn’t take the fifteen minutes for them to get there, as you described.... I’m just not seeing any crew or passenger animations when they’re suppose to be boarding.  It says on the status message that they are, but there’s nothing there. 

And with the Phenom, that’s when Couatl seems to just completely freeze as soon as the “boarding” status message shows up.  It’s just really odd.... the bus stops abruptly, with the wheels spinning in place, and the baggage carts/operators freeze in place.  The sounds for the engines on both the bus & baggage carts are still clearly heard, even after I shut P3D down.  I either have to reboot the computer, or go into Task Manager & end the Couatl application.  I’ve tried reinstalling GSX & reinstalling FSUIPC to no avail. 

Here’s hoping they can pinpoint & correct both our issues soon.
Title: Re: GSX LEVEL 2 EXPANSION PROBLEM
Post by: stewart on September 09, 2018, 03:58:00 am


Your problem is a little different to mine. My problem is that it works BUT it takes 15min on the dot before the bus turns up this on any airport (jetways seem to work and unload/ load passengers right away just the bus have a time delay for some reasion

Oh yeah.. it was Raphael that is having my problem.  He’s the only one I could see that was having a problem similar to mine.  Are the planes you’re using all bigger commercial planes?  They’re not smaller business jets?  I had just assumed the animated passengers & crew would show up regardless of whether it’s a bigger plane or smaller ones like the Mustang & Phenom.  I noticed when trying it on the Mustang that the passenger shuttles move really slow, but it doesn’t take the fifteen minutes for them to get there, as you described.... I’m just not seeing any crew or passenger animations when they’re suppose to be boarding.  It says on the status message that they are, but there’s nothing there. 

And with the Phenom, that’s when Couatl seems to just completely freeze as soon as the “boarding” status message shows up.  It’s just really odd.... the bus stops abruptly, with the wheels spinning in place, and the baggage carts/operators freeze in place.  The sounds for the engines on both the bus & baggage carts are still clearly heard, even after I shut P3D down.  I either have to reboot the computer, or go into Task Manager & end the Couatl application.  I’ve tried reinstalling GSX & reinstalling FSUIPC to no avail. 

Here’s hoping they can pinpoint & correct both our issues soon.

I don't have any jets apart from the default ones i use the q400 and the c207 skywagon bush mostly
Title: Re: GSX LEVEL 2 EXPANSION PROBLEM
Post by: Raphael on September 09, 2018, 07:26:37 am
Yep,

As keithorton said, not working for small airplanes.  I tested GSX with PMDG B737 and it worked just fine, passengers showed up.

I will test more tomorrow.
Title: Re: GSX LEVEL 2 EXPANSION PROBLEM
Post by: abude83 on September 09, 2018, 09:45:11 am
#1 loaded the MJC8Q400 plane from http://majesticsoftware.com into the airport nznv (default) on gate 1
#2 opened all doors pressed shift E 1,2,3,4
#3 opened gsx (ctrl shift F12) and requested unboarding.
#4 entered 30 passengers when it ask how Meany
#5 waited 15min then the bus turned up and everything worked eg unloaded passengers, then unloaded baggage
#6 repeated for a number of other airports (default and not)

Im running orbx south and north island newzealand but have also tried other country's
I dont have any FSDT airports sorry i only have all orbx stuff

Thank you!!!!! This is precisely why i signed up for these forums!!!!! I am having this EXACT problem myself!
To add to this, i have tried gsx level 2 with pmdg 737 as well as aerosoft crj (two other payware aircrafts that i normally fly) and everything works perfectly!
For me, this problem is only with the majestic dash 8 regardless of which airport i fly from or scenery that i use etc.
Btw, i am using the standard aircraft configuration from gsx!
oh and yeah, same thing goes for boarding!
Title: Re: GSX LEVEL 2 EXPANSION PROBLEM
Post by: stewart on September 09, 2018, 09:58:22 am
#1 loaded the MJC8Q400 plane from http://majesticsoftware.com into the airport nznv (default) on gate 1
#2 opened all doors pressed shift E 1,2,3,4
#3 opened gsx (ctrl shift F12) and requested unboarding.
#4 entered 30 passengers when it ask how Meany
#5 waited 15min then the bus turned up and everything worked eg unloaded passengers, then unloaded baggage
#6 repeated for a number of other airports (default and not)

Im running orbx south and north island newzealand but have also tried other country's
I dont have any FSDT airports sorry i only have all orbx stuff

Thank you!!!!! This is precisely why i signed up for these forums!!!!! I am having this EXACT problem myself!
To add to this, i have tried gsx level 2 with pmdg 737 as well as aerosoft crj (two other payware aircrafts that i normally fly) and everything works perfectly!
For me, this problem is only with the majestic dash 8 regardless of which airport i fly from or scenery that i use etc.
Btw, i am using the standard aircraft configuration from gsx!
oh and yeah, same thing goes for boarding!

Hmmm so you have the 15min wait for the bus with the q400 as well???. I have tried a few other aircraft as well but same problem.
Title: Re: GSX LEVEL 2 EXPANSION PROBLEM 15min DELAY FOR BUS
Post by: Lindsay on September 09, 2018, 10:42:30 am
Hi,
Am also experiencing the same problem with the Q400 (majestic). My airport was Sonoma (KSTS - Orbx - Gate 1). No bus just a long wait with nothing happening after stairs and loader goes into position. The baggage cart sits their and doesn't move.   No passengers arrive. Running P3D V4.3 here.

Thanks
Title: Re: GSX LEVEL 2 EXPANSION PROBLEM 15min DELAY FOR BUS
Post by: stewart on September 09, 2018, 11:00:26 am
Comfurmed problem is with the q400 i just installed the aerosoft crj aircraft as a user said it was working. So i tried it at the same airport i was using the q400 at that was having the 15min delay and the aerosoft crj works without any problems (no wait time). So yep the problem is with the q400 airplane. There are also other small aircraft as well eg the ones i tired in my other posts and they have the same problem as the q400. Looks like there is a bit of work to be done on this update or some of the small aircraft configs or something.

So question is how do we get the other aircraft like the q400 (that use to work with old ver) and the other small aircraft with is meant to work to now work without the 15min delay hmmmmm.
Title: Re: GSX LEVEL 2 EXPANSION PROBLEM 15min DELAY FOR BUS
Post by: stewart on September 09, 2018, 11:09:45 am
Hi,
Am also experiencing the same problem with the Q400 (majestic). My airport was Sonoma (KSTS - Orbx - Gate 1). No bus just a long wait with nothing happening after stairs and loader goes into position. The baggage cart sits their and doesn't move.   No passengers arrive. Running P3D V4.3 here.

Thanks

It does work its just got a 15min delay eg try this start the boarding or unloading and speed up the sim you will see the bus arrive then click normal speed and see them unload or load. It takes 15min for the bus to arrive on normal speed don't know why yet. Try it and let us know here if its the same with you.
Title: Re: GSX LEVEL 2 EXPANSION PROBLEM 15min DELAY FOR BUS
Post by: stewart on September 09, 2018, 11:18:28 am
Hi,
Am also experiencing the same problem with the Q400 (majestic). My airport was Sonoma (KSTS - Orbx - Gate 1). No bus just a long wait with nothing happening after stairs and loader goes into position. The baggage cart sits their and doesn't move.   No passengers arrive. Running P3D V4.3 here.

Thanks

Yep that's bang on the same for me with the q400. Well the bus dose arrive after 15min
Title: Re: GSX LEVEL 2 EXPANSION PROBLEM 15min DELAY FOR BUS
Post by: abude83 on September 09, 2018, 01:39:56 pm
Ok! i have some good news!
The problem with the majestic q400 boarding and unboarding seems to be caused by embedded stairs not being enabled at the main exit/entrance of the aircraft!

In order to eliminate the problem, please go on ahead and load the majestic q400. Once loaded, go to customize aircraft and click on Pax 1. check the embedded stair checkbox on the popup box and hit save!

Boarding and Unboarding should work normally now! Happy flying!
Title: Re: GSX LEVEL 2 EXPANSION PROBLEM 15min DELAY FOR BUS
Post by: pete_auau on September 09, 2018, 01:48:11 pm
well done
Title: Re: GSX LEVEL 2 EXPANSION PROBLEM 15min DELAY FOR BUS
Post by: stewart on September 09, 2018, 03:09:42 pm
Ok! i have some good news!
The problem with the majestic q400 boarding and unboarding seems to be caused by embedded stairs not being enabled at the main exit/entrance of the aircraft!

In order to eliminate the problem, please go on ahead and load the majestic q400. Once loaded, go to customize aircraft and click on Pax 1. check the embedded stair checkbox on the popup box and hit save!

Boarding and Unboarding should work normally now! Happy flying!

Bang on working now thanks and good find. :)
Title: Re: (fixed) GSX LEVEL 2 EXPANSION PROBLEM 15min DELAY FOR BUS
Post by: virtuali on September 09, 2018, 04:51:00 pm
Yes, it's fixed now, and it was a combination of two issues:

- We haven't configured the Q400 with an embedded stair, so it used a small stair.

- That small stair was still missing some important parameters which are required to use passengers.

You can get the updated files by running the Live Update and (this might be important), RESET the Q400 configuration, so GSX will use its (now updated) internal one, which has an embedded stair configured.
Title: Re: GSX LEVEL 2 EXPANSION PROBLEM 15min DELAY FOR BUS
Post by: Raphael on September 09, 2018, 05:08:24 pm
Ok! i have some good news!
The problem with the majestic q400 boarding and unboarding seems to be caused by embedded stairs not being enabled at the main exit/entrance of the aircraft!

In order to eliminate the problem, please go on ahead and load the majestic q400. Once loaded, go to customize aircraft and click on Pax 1. check the embedded stair checkbox on the popup box and hit save!

Boarding and Unboarding should work normally now! Happy flying!

Awesome!!!!!

I will test my Carenado SF34 & legendary Learjet 35A in a while   8)

Yes, it's fixed now, and it was a combination of two issues:

- We haven't configured the Q400 with an embedded stair, so it used a small stair.

- That small stair was still missing some important parameters which are required to use passengers.

You can get the updated files by running the Live Update...

Great news, i suppose airplanes got to be updated little by little.  I see larger dev airplanes like PMDG, FSLABs are ok.... Solution seems easy, but, nothing like revised by pro-dev.
Title: Re: (fixed) GSX LEVEL 2 EXPANSION PROBLEM 15min DELAY FOR BUS
Post by: Raphael on September 10, 2018, 12:40:50 am
Working like a Charm here....

THis is me reading manuals and abude83 advices:

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/tqgktIb2LRZRaY3X36o3r6fAcha1VQoD_sKyesdGuvwUQsxL3TbvBoOwc8rFizx_gB8_ni2cYT0t0zVWZCe_EsvFy4hRVcxqjCwDmmXiiktvukGtq5kl1HiwGtUpmQRMxgEBs3IxVLukcR4KAe3VozlEhSYE2sG-YBIdaVN3-rKMGdL3TeQd-xHRa-tm7anNBlPjvxj_5lgA6o0TQRSqm6VWhr5xsxMP25HYeRMy-dSxo78p97sTK1xJcNeMrKOy8rPpVA72AV3av-iI4xlsoUWUuTDKQ-iI12lTZhQ90Ujkjdn6qSKPKrZeaH2zAE-dxWQiRu0KXIgc1qaYJ6WTzuUo3nIVCgNIPKXJJl8XQjri6veCIcvoVwsFT0s5L-DRTv2g3xk-MHpiwEAh7Lmi0dJpxoDRX8h4uNl7z8eOyl-bLlm9LVzlk2_58gTVybEvDI36ktsUSpu5-vJJ3H-3FE6o7dR2Cyx5FRkXg8IN8TMP7oPF_mbg6ziy5cucy4jE0JDl4z4B48Uw1M6PVMZuV7yMYujvKSlI3kSIoXN3Ea-WRCkEAGwBKzRITX85dy4heEyjy9UmfOALfhefIPQEqv6Gbfxe-FdPlNLNq_8ukzJnuGWy6ptUWWTw_g5u49s=w896-h446-no)
 8)

There is more to learn and refine.... For expl i cant set end/start for stairs, i just see the configuration with the angle(i made it work, but itll be easier and i dont know why is not showing...  According to the manual GSX2 should show that...  well, lets continue on it...

Following the thread...