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Title: FSX as 64 bit?
Post by: Frank Lindberg on August 16, 2014, 05:19:34 pm
Is this fake or what? what is your opinion? is it possible?

http://flightreal.com/32-bit-to-64-bit.html

Title: Re: FSX as 64 bit?
Post by: JSilva on August 16, 2014, 05:44:23 pm
I don't know but I don't trust it. Converting an app to 64bit is not simple, you need to rewrite the code (and some of the code can break when changing). Lockheed Martin says they will look at a 64bit version of Prepar3D but confirmed it can break compatibility (and who knows when there will be a 64bit Prepar3D). This is just an example.
Title: Re: FSX as 64 bit?
Post by: Hnla on August 16, 2014, 06:19:20 pm
It's clearly a scam, you can't do such a thing with one simple converter like this. This is so ridiculous I can't even imagine how people would fall for this..

AND, why would a company release a "alpha" version of the program, let along CHARGE you for it.

Most fraudulent thing I've seen in awhile.
Title: Re: FSX as 64 bit?
Post by: JSilva on August 16, 2014, 06:25:39 pm
It's clearly a scam, you can't do such a thing with one simple converter like this. This is so ridiculous I can't even imagine how people would fall for this..

AND, why would a company release a "alpha" version of the program, let along CHARGE you for it.

Most fraudulent thing I've seen in awhile.
That's the thing, even if there is such a thing as converting FSX into a 64bit app, there will still be code needed to be changed to suit it and it would take months or years. Most, if not all addons will break as a result of the conversion.
Title: Re: FSX as 64 bit?
Post by: streichholz on August 16, 2014, 06:27:14 pm
Hm. It's just a 64 Bit environment. But I would like to hear Virtualis opinion on this.

But I also go with you guys. I wouldn't trust.
Title: Re: FSX as 64 bit?
Post by: JSilva on August 16, 2014, 06:39:24 pm
One question that bugs me, how many people did in fact actually buy the converter?
Title: Re: FSX as 64 bit?
Post by: streichholz on August 16, 2014, 06:42:02 pm
I hear the first time about it. My fear is a destroyed FSX after installation of this tool :).
Title: Re: FSX as 64 bit?
Post by: virtuali on August 16, 2014, 10:03:50 pm
I don't think such thing can technically exists.

Just keep in mind it took *years* for Adobe to port Photoshop to 64 bit, and that's a program that generates way more revenues than FSX ever did, so they had most of their resources on it. FSX is task comparable in complexity, in fact it also has started an industry in add-ons, just like Photoshop, that will all need to be ported to 64 bit too, just like Photoshop.

I think that if I made a program that would tweak the frame rate *counter* to show higher numbers, many people will be convinced their sim IS running more smoothly. But I would never think about selling it...
Title: Re: FSX as 64 bit?
Post by: Bruce Hamilton on August 17, 2014, 11:09:34 pm
Tom Allensworth of AVSIM is reporting this as a scam, he says there is no such thing as a 32 to 64 bit converter.
Title: Re: FSX as 64 bit?
Post by: ESzczesniak on August 18, 2014, 02:43:36 am
Based on the AVSIM forums, it seems all this does is change your FSX.cfg to a very performance friendly group of settings (512 textures, LOD 2.5, etc).  I was sure this was fake in the sense that converting FSX to a true 64 bit program without source code seems likely impossible.  However, I did remain slightly hopeful that someone figured out a way to "hack" some extra VAS.  Alas, it is effectively a scam, doing nothing more than FSX.cfg tweaks that any adept FSX user can do on their own.

http://forum.avsim.net/topic/449495-64-bit-conversion/?p=3057913
Title: Re: FSX as 64 bit?
Post by: PUP4ORD on August 18, 2014, 07:25:33 am
I can't see that happening anytime soon anyway..... But it would be nice to see some day :-\
Title: Re: FSX as 64 bit?
Post by: Lude2Envy on August 20, 2014, 01:59:13 am
From what I've read, .bgl files won't run in a 64-bit environment. Without .bgl files, there is no FSX/P3D.
Title: Re: FSX as 64 bit?
Post by: 767 Pilot on August 20, 2014, 02:53:29 am
No it doesn't exist....! Nor does your bank account when you give them you account number to buy it!!!

Doug
Title: Re: FSX as 64 bit?
Post by: AirbusManiac on September 07, 2014, 03:00:50 pm
There will NEVER be a 64-bit flight simulator that is compatible to FSX. That is why P3D is still 32bit to provide compatibility to FSX sceneries.

A 64bit flight simulator would mean a complete new product made from scratch without a chance of having FSX sceneries work in there. Xplane would be such a flight simulator as it has its own format of sceneries.
Title: Re: FSX as 64 bit?
Post by: Frank Lindberg on September 07, 2014, 03:07:43 pm
There will NEVER be a 64-bit flight simulator that is compatible to FSX. That is why P3D is still 32bit to provide compatibility to FSX sceneries.

A 64bit flight simulator would mean a complete new product made from scratch without a chance of having FSX sceneries work in there. Xplane would be such a flight simulator as it has its own format of sceneries.

Yeah...we know  ;)
Title: Re: FSX as 64 bit?
Post by: Speedbird ATC on September 08, 2014, 01:41:46 am
Its been proven a scam.
Title: Re: FSX as 64 bit?
Post by: Hnla on September 08, 2014, 04:30:34 am
Its been proven a scam.

Thanks for pointing out the obvious
Title: Re: FSX as 64 bit?
Post by: virtuali on September 08, 2014, 09:22:39 am
There will NEVER be a 64-bit flight simulator that is compatible to FSX. That is why P3D is still 32bit to provide compatibility to FSX sceneries.

I don't think a 64 bit flight simulator would cause too much problems with sceneries. The biggest issues will probably be gauges code and 3rd party modules code.
Title: Re: FSX as 64 bit?
Post by: Wood on June 17, 2017, 10:07:15 pm
There will NEVER be a 64-bit flight simulator that is compatible to FSX. That is why P3D is still 32bit to provide compatibility to FSX sceneries.

A 64bit flight simulator would mean a complete new product made from scratch without a chance of having FSX sceneries work in there. Xplane would be such a flight simulator as it has its own format of sceneries.

Boy was this statement wrong.
Title: Re: FSX as 64 bit?
Post by: virtuali on June 18, 2017, 11:01:04 pm
Boy was this statement wrong.

And I assure you that, when I wrote this, almost 3 years ago:

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I don't think a 64 bit flight simulator would cause too much problems with sceneries. The biggest issues will probably be gauges code and 3rd party modules code.

I didn't had any news of a possible 64 bit sim, like P3D V4, and V3 was released in 2015.