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Products Support => GSX Support FSX/P3D => Topic started by: nullo505 on December 24, 2012, 04:01:32 pm

Title: GSX not showing up in addons
Post by: nullo505 on December 24, 2012, 04:01:32 pm
I want to purchase gsx so I tried out the demo first. After its done installing I can't access it from fsx. When I start a flight, coutl engine or addon manager doesn't show up under addons. I checked internet options and publishers. It wasn't under any of those. I even turned of my antivirus. It still doesn't show up. After downloading gsx I downloaded add on manager. GSX still doesn't show up. I even did an FSX repair and then tried re-installing it. It seems like every addon is working except gsx which isn't showing up under addons. I am not sure what to do next. Is this just a problem with the demo? If I buy the full version will the problem still occur? I am not sure what to do. Please help, for I really want to try out this amazing product.
Title: Re: GSX not showing up in addons
Post by: virtuali on December 24, 2012, 11:28:22 pm
The Demo is obviously exactly the same as the full version so, if your system has a problem which is preventing GSX to work, purchasing GSX won't surely fix the problem that your system has. The whole point of having a Demo is exactly to let you check if your system is fine and GSX runs with it.

However, your explanation of the problem is not very clear. You said "GSX doesn't show up", but it's not clear if it's only GSX that doesn't show up, or it's the whole software modules needed to run it.

So, the usual questions:

- Do you have BOTH the "Addon Manager" AND the "Couatl powered products" menus under the FSX "Addons" menu ?

- Do you have both of them, none of them, or just one ?

- Do you have other FSDT products installed ? Do they work ?

- Have you being ASKED permission to run the two modules when you first started FSX after installing ? Have you replied YES to BOTH questions ?
Title: Re: GSX not showing up in addons
Post by: nullo505 on December 25, 2012, 12:37:57 am
Question answers:

I don't have addon manager and Couatl under the addons menu
I don't have any other fsdt products installed. This is my first time.
When I first opened fsx, I was never asked permission to run the two modules.
I already checked under publishers. Virtualli is under none of them.
Title: Re: GSX not showing up in addons
Post by: virtuali on December 25, 2012, 12:40:34 am
As explained in all other threads about  missing Addon Manager and/or Couatl menus, they are always caused by:

1) Your antivirus mistakenly blocking them. The antivirus solution has been posted many times already of course, here's another copy of it:
- DOWNLOAD AND INSTALL with the antivirus entirely OFF

- Uninstall GSX. Reply YES when asked if you want to remove the Addon Manager and the Couatl Engine. Reply YES to both questions.

- TURN OFF your antivirus. Don't just exit from its interface, but turn off the real time protection. Actual wording changes between products, however, it's the option to scan every file that gets open in real time, without user intervention.

- Reinstall GSX (using the full installer in this case) with the Antivirus TURNED OFF. Don't launch FSX yet.

- Configure the antivirus to exclude the following files from scanning:

YourFSXFolder\bglmanx.dll
YourFSXFolder\fsdreamteam\Couatl\couatl.exe

YourFSXFolder it's usually C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X, if you installed it in the default folder.

- Now you can turn the antivirus back on, and launch FSX.

- Check you are seeing BOTH the "Addon Manager" menu AND the "Couatl powered products" menu under the "Addons" menu.


2) A problem with your Visual C++ 2005 runtimes installation. The missing runtimes solution has been posted many times already of course, here's another copy of it:

- Go in the Windows control panel, and Uninstall ALL the instances of the Visual Studio 2005 redistributable runtimes. You might have more than one version: remove them all.

- Then, after removing everything related to VS2005, reinstall again these 3 files:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=32BC1BEE-A3F9-4C13-9C99-220B62A191EE&displaylang=en
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=200b2fd9-ae1a-4a14-984d-389c36f85647&displaylang=en
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=766a6af7-ec73-40ff-b072-9112bab119c2&displaylang=en
http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?displaylang=en&id=26347

AFTER installing all the runtimes, it could be useful running Windows Update and update everything, including the optional downloads.

3) A problem with your Simconnect install being missing/corrupted. This is not common, but it might still happen. The solutions is:

- Go into your Windows\WinSxS folder and delete the simconnect 10.0.61259.0 folder. Then REPAIR the FSX SP2 (or Acceleration, if you have that one instead) setup, this will restore a broken Simconnect

4) You have inadvertently Un-trusted us as a Publisher, so nothing signed by us will run.

To fix this, go to the Control Panel, under "Internet Options", look for the "Content" tab, there should be a "Publishers" button, that will list the software publishers that you trusted, and another tab with untrusted publishers. If you see "Virtuali s.a.s", remove it from both tabs (especially if it's under untrusted)
Title: Re: GSX not showing up in addons
Post by: ByteG on December 28, 2012, 12:21:24 am
Hi Virtuali,

I am having exactly the same problems as nullo505.
However I am not on "trial mode" anymore since April. I never had any problems with GSX before, even if I had downloaded and installed it with antivirus turned on.

I remember that a couple of weeks ago the automatic installed notified me in FSX that and update was ready but I have to download Standalone Addon manager manually from FSDT site which I did. I remember that I have also updated GSX but I haven't used it since (I went for vacation).
Anyway, when I tried to call GSX menu first using MCE and then manually with CTRL+F12 and it didn't appear. So, I've checked the menu and it was not there.

Ok, I've checked this forum and I've proceeded according to this topic.

First, I've turned off antivirus.
I've uninstalled both ZurichX and GSX, removed VS 2005 distributables and even standalone manager (I couldn't find Couatl engine in control panel).
I have also manually deleted fsdreamteam folder.

Then I've reinstalled first VS 2005 distributables (both x86 and x64 - although I think that the later doesn't matter). I have also versions 2008 and 2012 of VS distributable.
Afterwards I have downloaded both ZurichX and GSX setup files again (full version - although they've worked before).
After installing them and running FSX I was prompted by FSX to confirm running both script engines which I did.
I've even checked exe.xml and dll.xml which contain the following entries:

  <Launch.Addon>
    <Name>Couatl</Name>
    <Disabled>False</Disabled>
    <ManualLoad>False</ManualLoad>
    <Path>fsdreamteam\couatl\couatl.exe</Path>
  </Launch.Addon>

  <Launch.Addon>
    <Name>Addon Manager</Name>
    <Disabled>False</Disabled>
    <ManualLoad>False</ManualLoad>
    <Path>bglmanx.dll</Path>
  </Launch.Addon>

This seems ok to me.

However the menu is not there.

I am not sure if this has any impact but I have also installed Visual Studio 2012 express.

I've also checked if there is a problem with Simconnect but ESP examples work from VS 2012.
And there is no viruali in Trusted/Untrusted publishers of Internet options.

Therefore I am running out of ideas.

And, by the time of writing this post my antivirus (free version of Avast) is still turned off.

So, I would really appreciate your help since GSX has worked for me for 7 months untill now and I would like to continue using it.

Brg,
ByteG

Title: Re: GSX not showing up in addons
Post by: virtuali on December 28, 2012, 01:02:42 am
However I am not on "trial mode" anymore since April.

That only confirm what I've said, that this problem is entirely unrelated to the activation process.

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Anyway, when I tried to call GSX menu first using MCE and then manually with CTRL+F12 and it didn't appear. So, I've checked the menu and it was not there.

What, exactly, wasn't there ? The Addon Manager menu, the Couatl menu, or the GSX entries under the Couatl menu ?
Title: Re: GSX not showing up in addons
Post by: ByteG on December 28, 2012, 11:33:56 am

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Anyway, when I tried to call GSX menu first using MCE and then manually with CTRL+F12 and it didn't appear. So, I've checked the menu and it was not there.

What, exactly, wasn't there ? The Addon Manager menu, the Couatl menu, or the GSX entries under the Couatl menu ?

A picture is worth a thousand words - as you can see GSX is installed and there is nothing showing on the menu.
Title: Re: GSX not showing up in addons
Post by: ByteG on December 28, 2012, 11:36:14 am

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Anyway, when I tried to call GSX menu first using MCE and then manually with CTRL+F12 and it didn't appear. So, I've checked the menu and it was not there.

What, exactly, wasn't there ? The Addon Manager menu, the Couatl menu, or the GSX entries under the Couatl menu ?

A picture is worth a thousand words - as you can see GSX is installed and there is nothing showing on the menu.


And I've found the following in the log file:

couatl v2.0 (build 2322)
log started on Fri Dec 28 10:50:16 2012

connecting to SimConnect...
connected to FSX
bglmanx non ready yet, waiting.
Title: Re: GSX not showing up in addons
Post by: virtuali on December 28, 2012, 05:38:13 pm
A picture is worth a thousand words - as you can see GSX is installed and there is nothing showing on the menu.

All the know solutions to both addons disappearing from the menu were already indicated in the above post:

http://www.fsdreamteam.com/forum/index.php?topic=7780.msg64351#msg64351

If you *really* tried ALL of that, the only options left are reparing the FSX installation, and if that fails, reinstall Windows.
Title: Re: GSX not showing up in addons
Post by: ByteG on December 28, 2012, 07:40:12 pm
A picture is worth a thousand words - as you can see GSX is installed and there is nothing showing on the menu.

All the know solutions to both addons disappearing from the menu were already indicated in the above post:

http://www.fsdreamteam.com/forum/index.php?topic=7780.msg64351#msg64351

If you *really* tried ALL of that, the only options left are reparing the FSX installation, and if that fails, reinstall Windows.

Ok, let's see:
- DOWNLOAD AND INSTALL with the antivirus entirely OFF - done (also turned off Win. defender and firewall)
- TURN OFF your antivirus. Don't just exit from its interface ... - done
- Reinstall GSX (using the full installer in this case) with the Antivirus TURNED OFF - done (at least 5 times)
- Configure the antivirus to exclude the following files from scanning: - yes in Defender, couldn't find it in avast.
- Now you can turn the antivirus back on, and launch FSX. - still turned off
- Check you are seeing BOTH the "Addon Manager" menu AND... not there
- Go in the Windows control panel, and Uninstall ALL the instances of the Visual Studio 2005 redistributable runtimes. You might have more than one version: remove them all. - all removed and reinstalled (x86 and x64)
- AFTER installing all the runtimes, it could be useful running Windows Update and update everything, including the optional downloads. - installed all current updates

So points 1 and 2 are done

Regarding  Simconnect, I don't think that it is broken since other addons are working - such as FSUIPC, Accufeel and Active Sky 2012. And also Simconnect examples from VS 2012.

However, I did notice something in Simconnect logs:

0.10827 Exe Launched:  Path="fsdreamteam\couatl\couatl.exe"  CommandLine=""  Version="2.0.0.2322"
0.11898 DLL Failed to load. Check for missing dependencies.
0.11899 DLL Load Failed:  Error=-3  Path="bglmanx.dll"

0.14866 DLL Loaded:  Path="C:\FSX\Modules\iFly737NG.dll"  Version="1.1.0.0"
0.15064 DLL Loaded:  Path="D:\FSX\Microsoft Flight Simulator X SDK\SDK\Environment Kit\Traffic Toolbox SDK\traffictoolbox.dll"  Version="10.0.61637.0"
0.15495 Panels data export found and set to 20B319D8
0.20900 DLL Loaded:  Path="D:\FSX\FS Recorder for FSX\FSRecorder_FSX.dll"  Version="2.1.0.0"
0.21393 Panels data export found and set to 20B319D8
0.24268 DLL Loaded:  Path="Modules\A2A_Feel.dll"  Version="<Unknown>"
0.24498 Panels data export found and set to 20B319D8
0.24526 DLL Loaded:  Path="Modules\AccuFeelMenu.dll"  Version="0.1.0.0"
0.24727 Panels data export found and set to 20B319D8
0.24904 DLL Loaded:  Path="fsInsider.dll"  Version="2.5.0.8"
0.33422 Panels data export found and set to 20B319D8
0.84386 DLL Loaded:  Path="Modules\FSUIPC4.dll"  Version="4.8.5.3"

As you can see only Couatl and bglmanx failed to load.

Also, during the first and last reinstallaion my fsx.cfg was rebuild due to unknown reason and this didn't help either.

There is one more thing, please check the error below during the installation.
Title: Re: GSX not showing up in addons
Post by: virtuali on December 28, 2012, 08:12:41 pm
0.10827 Exe Launched:  Path="fsdreamteam\couatl\couatl.exe"  CommandLine=""  Version="2.0.0.2322"
0.11898 DLL Failed to load. Check for missing dependencies.
0.11899 DLL Load Failed:  Error=-3  Path="bglmanx.dll"

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As you can see only Couatl and bglmanx failed to load.

Yes, they surely failed to load, but that confirms one of the cases in my previous post.

It wasn't Simconnect in this case, by the Visual C++ libraries. These are the only dependencies the two modules have so, whenever you have a "missing dependencies" error, the error in your system it's either Simconnect, or the VC++ 2005 libraries.

Fact that other addons works, simply mean they might have dependencies from other libraries, which are not missing from your system. Unfortunately, the ones with problems is the one we require.

Unfortunately, it's not always possible to fix broken VC++ by reinstalling them. Some users had success by repairing the FSX SP2 (or Acceleration, if that is what you have installed), which will hopefully restore the missing/corrupted libraries.
Title: Re: GSX not showing up in addons
Post by: ByteG on December 28, 2012, 10:26:20 pm
0.10827 Exe Launched:  Path="fsdreamteam\couatl\couatl.exe"  CommandLine=""  Version="2.0.0.2322"
0.11898 DLL Failed to load. Check for missing dependencies.
0.11899 DLL Load Failed:  Error=-3  Path="bglmanx.dll"

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As you can see only Couatl and bglmanx failed to load.

Yes, they surely failed to load, but that confirms one of the cases in my previous post.

It wasn't Simconnect in this case, by the Visual C++ libraries. These are the only dependencies the two modules have so, whenever you have a "missing dependencies" error, the error in your system it's either Simconnect, or the VC++ 2005 libraries.

Fact that other addons works, simply mean they might have dependencies from other libraries, which are not missing from your system. Unfortunately, the ones with problems is the one we require.

Unfortunately, it's not always possible to fix broken VC++ by reinstalling them. Some users had success by repairing the FSX SP2 (or Acceleration, if that is what you have installed), which will hopefully restore the missing/corrupted libraries.

Ok, I've removed GSX again (completely), removed all VC++ 2005 distributables, run REPAIR for Acceleration, reinstalled all 6 VC++ 2005 packages (4x86, 2x64) and reinstalled GSX (under AV turned off).

Unfortunatelly, the result is the same. (The same thing happens for installing ZurichX also)

However, I found something else in the log:
> 45.09226 [128, 1]Open: Version=0x00000004  Name="Couatl"


It looks that Couatl.exe is being loaded anyway. I guess that the problem is only with bglmanx.dll
Is it possible to get a detailed log and not only Error: -3 ?
Does bglmanx.dll depend on Coualt.exe ?

Also, is there any possible conflict of VC++ 2005, 2008, 2010 and 2012 - since I have all those versions?
Title: Re: GSX not showing up in addons
Post by: virtuali on December 29, 2012, 03:53:42 pm
Is it possible to get a detailed log and not only Error: -3 ?

It's not, unfortunately. Only that means "missing dependencies", we don't know what exactly is looking for. But, since Simconnect seems to be working, that leaves only the VC++ runtimes, since there are no other external dependencies for it.

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Does bglmanx.dll depend on Coualt.exe ?

No, as I've said, the only external dependencies are Simconnect and the VC++ 2005 runtimes.

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Also, is there any possible conflict of VC++ 2005, 2008, 2010 and 2012 - since I have all those versions?

No, in theory. But it practice it happened that some later VC++ runtimes broke earlier versions, for example, a specific release of the 2008 runtime (used by some PMDG products) broke the 2005 version. Microsoft fixed this, but it's possible you might still have the wrong version.

Try the following:

- Download and install the Stand-Alone Addon Manager, which includes a version of the bglmanx.dll linked to a slightly different release of the 2005 runtimes, that will hopefully work.

- If that doesn't work, try again the removal/reinstall of the VC++ runtimes, but this time remove all the 2005 versions AND the 2008 version, then reinstall ONLY the 2005 versions, and TEST. If that works, you might try installing the 2008 version, as downloaded from Microsoft so, if you have a product that will install an older (bugged) version,  it won't if you already have a newer one.
Title: Re: GSX not showing up in addons
Post by: ByteG on December 29, 2012, 04:04:13 pm
I've been busting my head with this for two days now.

I have reinstalled VC++ redistributables over 10 times I think. I have also searched for MSVC*80.dll files and manually put them into FSX and Windows\System32 folder.
I have downloaded dependency walker and installed missing DLLs. I have also repaired both original FSX and Acceleration pack and that didn't help either.

Then I've tried something else. I've found on my backup disk Installation of ZurichX version 2.5.1 and GSX version 1.5.
I have removed network cable so that bglmanx.dll wouldn't be downloaded.

And guess what, IT WORKS NOW.
So, the culprit is either latest version of bglmanx.dll or coualt.exe. Honestly, I have expected this all along since everything was ok a couple of weeks ago.
And all I have done since then was installed 2 new sceneries and nothing else.

Title: Re: GSX not showing up in addons
Post by: ByteG on December 29, 2012, 04:13:55 pm

- Download and install the Stand-Alone Addon Manager, which includes a version of the bglmanx.dll linked to a slightly different release of the 2005 runtimes, that will hopefully work.


Is it possible to download different versions of bglmanx.dll so that I could check which version doesn't work anymore?


- If that doesn't work, try again the removal/reinstall of the VC++ runtimes, but this time remove all the 2005 versions AND the 2008 version, then reinstall ONLY the 2005 versions, and TEST. If that works, you might try installing the 2008 version, as downloaded from Microsoft so, if you have a product that will install an older (bugged) version,  it won't if you already have a newer one.

I can try removing versions 2008. What about 2010 and 2012?
Title: Re: GSX not showing up in addons
Post by: ByteG on December 29, 2012, 07:57:16 pm
Hi again,

these are my latest findings:

GSX 1.5 contains manager version 2.9.0.3 which works fine.
ZurichX 2.5.3 contains manager version 2.9.0.4 which is also working

When ever I try to install Standalone Addon Manager 2.9.0.5 or GSX 1.7.6 then bglmanx.dll fails to load.
So, apparently this version was built with either some additional settings or additional libraries.

Removing VC++ 2008 and reinstalling VC++2005 red. (either x86 or x64) did not help either.

I am running Windows 7/x64 (if that helps)


Title: Re: GSX not showing up in addons
Post by: virtuali on December 30, 2012, 01:41:28 pm
Is it possible to download different versions of bglmanx.dll so that I could check which version doesn't work anymore?

That's precisely the reason why I've asked you to try the *Standalone* version of the Addon Manager, because it will install a different version of the .DLL compared to the full GSX installer, and that versions requires a slightly different version of the VC++ libraries, which is hopefully not missing/corrupted on your system.

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I can try removing versions 2008. What about 2010 and 2012?

Just do exactly as told and TEST. THEN, if that doesn't work, we might take other steps.
Title: Re: GSX not showing up in addons
Post by: ByteG on December 30, 2012, 02:49:03 pm
Is it possible to download different versions of bglmanx.dll so that I could check which version doesn't work anymore?

That's precisely the reason why I've asked you to try the *Standalone* version of the Addon Manager, because it will install a different version of the .DLL compared to the full GSX installer, and that versions requires a slightly different version of the VC++ libraries, which is hopefully not missing/corrupted on your system.


No, Standalone version is 2.9.0.5 which doesn't work.

As mentioned before, the latest bglmanx.dll that works is 2.9.0.4 which I've got from ZurichX 2.5.3.
I can install GSX 1.7.6 and then replace all files from ZurichX and it is ok (as long it is not .5 ).
Title: Re: GSX not showing up in addons
Post by: virtuali on December 30, 2012, 04:22:53 pm
Try this, download the following file:

http://www.fsdreamteam.com/download/setup/bglmanx/4053/bglmanx.dll
and put it into the FSX root folder, overwriting the one that is already there and try if it works.

If it doesn't, try with this one instead:
http://www.fsdreamteam.com/download/setup/bglmanx/6195/bglmanx.dll
Title: Re: GSX not showing up in addons
Post by: ByteG on December 30, 2012, 05:31:53 pm
Try this, download the following file:

http://www.fsdreamteam.com/download/setup/bglmanx/4053/bglmanx.dll
and put it into the FSX root folder, overwriting the one that is already there and try if it works.

If it doesn't, try with this one instead:
http://www.fsdreamteam.com/download/setup/bglmanx/6195/bglmanx.dll


Sorry, but neither of them work.
And if I copy back the previous version then it is ok.
Title: Re: GSX not showing up in addons
Post by: virtuali on December 30, 2012, 09:33:53 pm
And if I copy back the previous version then it is ok.

Which is strange, because there's no difference between the current and previous version, they all use the same VC++ runtimes.

Try a different thing, turn off DEP in Windows:

http://www.fanhow.com/knowhow:Enable_or_Disable_DEP_in_Windows_7_27019737
Title: Re: GSX not showing up in addons
Post by: ByteG on December 31, 2012, 12:14:59 pm
And if I copy back the previous version then it is ok.

Which is strange, because there's no difference between the current and previous version, they all use the same VC++ runtimes.

Try a different thing, turn off DEP in Windows:

http://www.fanhow.com/knowhow:Enable_or_Disable_DEP_in_Windows_7_27019737

Ok, tried that again. No difference.

I have provided pictures below in that order
bglmanx 4053, 6195 and returned to manager 2.9.0.4
Every time I have exited FSX so that new Simconnect log file was created
Title: Re: GSX not showing up in addons
Post by: virtuali on December 31, 2012, 03:25:12 pm
I have provided pictures below in that order

It's still the same problem, you have a problem with your VC++ libraries. This can be very difficult to fix, and I can only confirm there are no difference whatsoever between the previous bglmanx.dll and the current one, with regard to the VC++ library version (and of course the Simconnect version).

You can use the old version but, it's very likely starting from our next products, nothing will work with it, so the problem of your system should be fixed. Since it seems to be entirely random, it's possible the next version of the bglmanx.dll might even work.
Title: Re: GSX not showing up in addons
Post by: dalewilley on January 05, 2013, 04:33:33 pm
I can't get the COUATL half of the add-on to show up on FSX boot. It's in the exe.xml to load but never does. I have to manually start it by double clicking the exe file. Then when I select something from the GSX menu after CNTL+SHIFT+F12, the menu disappears, the FSX window loses focus for a second, and the COUATL menu item is gone from the Addons. Whatever I chose (followme, deboarding, etc) doesn't occur and double clicking the exe file doesn't restart COUATL.

Been through all the steps listed in the first post, turned on the panic log  and I don't see any .err file. Nothing in the COUATL log either that suggests a problem.

Running Windows 8 if that's a consideration

Dale
Title: Re: GSX not showing up in addons
Post by: virtuali on January 05, 2013, 07:10:34 pm
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Been through all the steps listed in the first post

If you really went through all steps discussed here, you should have produced a Simconnect diagnostic, what does the Simconnect diagnostic windows says ?
Title: Re: GSX not showing up in addons
Post by: ByteG on January 13, 2013, 12:15:01 pm

It's still the same problem, you have a problem with your VC++ libraries. This can be very difficult to fix, and I can only confirm there are no difference whatsoever between the previous bglmanx.dll and the current one, with regard to the VC++ library version (and of course the Simconnect version).

You can use the old version but, it's very likely starting from our next products, nothing will work with it, so the problem of your system should be fixed. Since it seems to be entirely random, it's possible the next version of the bglmanx.dll might even work.

Hi Viruali,

I've been waiting for the new release of Addon Manager (2.9.0.6) to see if it would make any difference. Unfortunatelly for me, it doesn't.
If I just copy all BGLMAN*.* files to my FSX folder from version 2.9.0.4 it works as it should.

I have also found a program called Dependency walker. Some people say it doesn't work as it should anymore but I've checked both versions of bglmanx.dll for any differences.
But no luck there.

I guess I will have to stick with the working version for now.

But I have a request for you, if possible.
I assume that you have installed many updates (Microsoft or non-microsoft) and probably some new applications since version .4 in your development environment.
I hope that you still have the code of version .4 (or earlier).
If I is not too much trouble, can you rebuild bglmanx.dll version .4 but with the latest microsoft updates just to see if it still loads correctly?

Also, is there a posiblity to load bglmanx.dll independently of FSX just to check if load would fail and why.

Thank you.
Title: Re: GSX not showing up in addons
Post by: ByteG on January 26, 2013, 10:33:16 pm

It's still the same problem, you have a problem with your VC++ libraries. This can be very difficult to fix, and I can only confirm there are no difference whatsoever between the previous bglmanx.dll and the current one, with regard to the VC++ library version (and of course the Simconnect version).

You can use the old version but, it's very likely starting from our next products, nothing will work with it, so the problem of your system should be fixed. Since it seems to be entirely random, it's possible the next version of the bglmanx.dll might even work.

Hi Viruali,

I've been waiting for the new release of Addon Manager (2.9.0.6) to see if it would make any difference. Unfortunatelly for me, it doesn't.
If I just copy all BGLMAN*.* files to my FSX folder from version 2.9.0.4 it works as it should.

I have also found a program called Dependency walker. Some people say it doesn't work as it should anymore but I've checked both versions of bglmanx.dll for any differences.
But no luck there.

I guess I will have to stick with the working version for now.

But I have a request for you, if possible.
I assume that you have installed many updates (Microsoft or non-microsoft) and probably some new applications since version .4 in your development environment.
I hope that you still have the code of version .4 (or earlier).
If I is not too much trouble, can you rebuild bglmanx.dll version .4 but with the latest microsoft updates just to see if it still loads correctly?

Also, is there a posiblity to load bglmanx.dll independently of FSX just to check if load would fail and why.

Thank you.

Hi Virtuali,

it saddens me that you were not able to reply to my last post in almost 2 weeks.

Since then I have taken extreme measures trying to fix that. By that I mean that I have reinstalled everything starting from Windows 7 64x ( with formatting c drive) - only due to bglmanx.dll error.

Currently I have installed:
- Windows 7 64 + office 2010
- TrackIR software
- Saitek drivers
- FSX + Acceleration
- FSX SDK (all 3 packages)
- GSX + latest addon manager
- FSUIPC + Linda
- Accufeel
- FSRecorder
- Some 3rd party aircrafts (iFly 737, Citation Mustang, Carenado mooney)
- and of course all x64 and x86 VC++ 2005, 2008, 2010, 2012 libraries

The result is the same. bglmanx.dll fails to load due to missing dependencies.

I understand that I could have messed something up with the last installation.
But if bglmanx.dll 2.9.0.6 fails to load on clear Win7/FSX installation and there was never an issue with version 2.9.0.4 there must be something that you have changed since than which conflicts with my configuration.

So, I would really appreciate your help here.

Thank you.
Title: Re: GSX not showing up in addons
Post by: virtuali on January 27, 2013, 01:56:43 am
The result is the same. bglmanx.dll fails to load due to missing dependencies.

That's not much to be said, than haven't been already said. bglmanx.dll requires only TWO external dependencies:

- Simconnect, which comes with FSX and is updated with SP1, then SP2. We require the version that comes with SP2 (or Acceleration)

- The VC++ 2005 runtimes SP1 redistributables. These are installed by countless of Windows products, are of course installed by any of our installer.

So, under normal conditions, it's not possible to "forget" something, because Simconnect is installed automatically by FSX, and the VC++ 2005 runtimes are installed by FSX itself and by our installers too.

Problems happens when something goes *wrong*. Since it's unlikely that Simconnect went corrupted, both because it's used by FSX only and is not freely redistributable, so it has less chances to be corrupted by another product (opposite by the VC++ runtimes, that can be installed and/or upgraded by everything), and if Simconnect was broken a lot of other FSX addons wouldn't work, the most likely problem is the VC++ runtime.

This might be simply corrupted/missing, but might even not work, just because there's another FSX addon that is causing a conflict and for some reason the Side-by-side system (that allows more than a single version of the library to run at the same time) might not work.

Unfortunately, troubleshooting this sometimes can be more complex that reinstalling Windows from scratch.

The possible solution has been already discussed several times:

- Remove EVERY VC++ runtime in your system.

- REPAIR the FSX SP2 install. This will reinstall only the version that FSX needs

- Download and install the Stand-Alone Addon Manager, which will reinstall only the version IT needs.
Title: Re: GSX not showing up in addons
Post by: sondac331 on September 07, 2015, 07:21:34 pm
Plz i have followed all your steps and gsx didnt work gsx was working with me at the old version when you download the new it didnt work the old version was working fine plz tell me how i can fix it i can see add ons at top but cant see coutl addon manger / addon manger i dont have antivirus i tryed to fix it while firewall OFF and got nothing plz help me i want to conti. using it
Title: Re: GSX not showing up in addons
Post by: virtuali on September 08, 2015, 09:27:31 am
Don't post twice, and try to write in a more understandable manner. This thread here indicates all known causes for the missing menus:

http://www.fsdreamteam.com/forum/index.php/topic,8428.msg68872.html#msg68872