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Title: Popup window problem in GSX
Post by: topejoan on June 12, 2022, 12:34:35 pm
Hello
I have a problem. I have installed a new hdd, operating system, flight simulator P3Dv5.3, iFly 737 advanced series aircraft, and third party programs.
Everything already mew works except for a part of the GSX. When I press with the simulator running in "Add-ons" and in "GSX" and "Show GSX Menu by passing YouControl - Shift+Control+F12", now a menu is not displayed indicating what I want to do: Boarding, Deboarding , refueling, catering, etc.
I attach two photos, what should I do?

Jose Angel Torres-Perez
Title: Re: Popup window problem in GSX
Post by: virtuali on June 12, 2022, 02:47:28 pm
Please clarify:

With "Everything already mew works", do you mean EVERYTHING works, just GSX can't be called from the "Addons" menu, but CAN be called with its hotkey ? Or even the hotkey doesn't work ?
Title: Re: Popup window problem in GSX
Post by: topejoan on June 12, 2022, 05:27:50 pm
When I press with the simulator running in "Add-ons" and in "GSX" and "Show GSX Menu by passing YouControl - Shift+Control+F12", now a menu is not displayed indicating what I want to do: Boarding, Deboarding , refueling, catering, etc. Before with the other hard drive if a menu was shown, now I can't load fuel, catering, etc.This is the only thing that doesn't work for me
Title: Re: Popup window problem in GSX
Post by: virtuali on June 12, 2022, 05:38:09 pm
Your report is still not clear because, saying "this is the only thing that doesn't work for me" seems to indicate everything in GSX works but then, you said you don't even have it's menu, that means NOTHING works, in fact.

That's why, I guess maybe you wanted to say it doesn't work *FROM THE ADDON MENU ONLY*, but it worked when using its HOTKEY, that's what I asked, but you subsequent reply doesn't make it any clear if this is in fact the problem, or GSX is not working at all.
Title: Re: Popup window problem in GSX
Post by: topejoan on June 12, 2022, 06:19:47 pm
I clarify it, GSX does not work when I click with the mouse on "Add-ons", then on "GSX" and then on "Show GSX Menu by passing YouControl" the drop-down menu does not appear. I also do it with the keyboard by pressing "Shift + Control + F12" does not work either.

Jose Angel Torres Perez
Title: Re: Popup window problem in GSX
Post by: virtuali on June 12, 2022, 06:21:51 pm
Ok so, it's not working at all, since without the menu ( either from the Addons menu or from the Hotkey ), you can't do much with GSX.

Do you see the message "Airport cache loaded successfully" at start, or if you use the "Restart and rebuild the airport cache" from the Couatl->Settings menu ?
Title: Re: Popup window problem in GSX
Post by: topejoan on June 12, 2022, 07:59:44 pm
Do you see the message "Airport cache loaded successfully" at start, yes, or if you use the "Restart and rebuild the airport cache" from the Couatl->Settings menu ? yes. If there is no solution, I will uninstall the GSX and hope to get lucky.

Jose Angel Torres Perez
Title: Re: Popup window problem in GSX
Post by: virtuali on June 12, 2022, 08:01:05 pm
Before reinstalling, could you check if the problems happens with a specific airplane ?
Title: Re: Popup window problem in GSX
Post by: topejoan on June 13, 2022, 11:11:39 am
Hello
I have the same problem with all aircraft. I have deactivated GSX and GSX2, uninstalled the program, deleted all remaining files. Now computer off and on. Installation of GSX and GSX2, activated, ok they have already been added to "Add-on" in P3D v5,. I click on "Restart Coualt and rebuid cache" in a few seconds, I get a dropdown of "Airpor cache regeneration completed wicth sucess in 4 second". Now I click on GSX and on the pop-up on "Show GSX Menu by-passing youControl" and nothing. I also hit "Shift + Ctrl + F12" and nothing.

Jose Angel Torres Perez
Title: Re: Popup window problem in GSX
Post by: virtuali on June 13, 2022, 01:29:21 pm
Could be you updated P3D from a previous version using only the Client installer ? Applications that use the Simconnect menu usually requires a Content update or a Full update.
Title: Re: Popup window problem in GSX
Post by: topejoan on June 13, 2022, 06:43:23 pm
Windows OS and Prepar3d version is the same as old HDD V5.3 (5.3.17.28160), and GSX worked perfectly. I have only installed the Windows Operating System and then he has only updated OS.
I have installed Prepar3D V5.3 and the GSX and GSX Level 2 Expansion software. I have activated them.
When I click Add-on, then GSX, then Show GSX Menu by-passing YouControl, it just places the orange and white cones around the aircraft without bringing up the next dropdown.
I've reinstalled P3D's "Client Intaller" as you indicate and it's still the same, I've updated GSX with the "FSDT Universal Installer" it's updated but it's still the same. Every time I do, updater, etc. I turn off the computer and turn it back on.
Title: Re: Popup window problem in GSX
Post by: virtuali on June 14, 2022, 05:57:24 pm
When I click Add-on, then GSX, then Show GSX Menu by-passing YouControl, it just places the orange and white cones around the aircraft without bringing up the next dropdown.

This means GSX is working perfectly. It's the simulator menu that isn't.

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I've reinstalled P3D's "Client Intaller" as you indicate and it's still the same

That's the opposite of what I said. You should have installed the Content or the Full Installer, it's installing/updating with the Client that cause the missing menu in the sim. If you upgraded the OS, some things require to run the P3D installer again and it must be either the Content or (better) the Full Installer.
Title: Re: Popup window problem in GSX
Post by: topejoan on June 22, 2022, 07:53:48 pm
Hello
I have formatted the hard drive. Installed the Windows 10 Operating System. Downloaded all updates. I disable the Antivirus. Now I install the Prepar 3D v5.3 program, and activate it. I install GSX, and pass "FSDT Universal Installer" all as administrator, where I activate GSX and GSX2 advanced. In the antivirus in exclusions I add the "Add Manager" folder. Now I run the full p3d installer. I turn off the computer and restart it. I start the P3D program and in the upper area in add-ons a window is displayed, with FSUIPC, iFly 737, Add-Manager (Virtuali), GSX, etc. I click on GSX and the dropdown in the lower area in "Restart Coualt and rebuild airport cache" shows an upper horizontal band indicating that it takes 5 seconds. Now I click on Show GSX Menu by-passing You-Control or Shift+Ctrl+F12" and the only thing it does is place some white and orange cones around the aircraft. But the dropdown with the actions it can perform does not appear: Boarding, deboardin, refuel, etc. I have tried several aircraft and nothing.
All this worked with the previous hard drive that crashed, nothing has changed, it's the same hardware and software, the hard drive is a 2tb solid type.
Windows 10, Ram 16Gb. micro Intel I5 4460, 64Bits System, Gforce RTX2060 graphics card.
Some help please.

Jose Angel Torres Perez
Title: Re: Popup window problem in GSX
Post by: virtuali on June 22, 2022, 10:45:08 pm
I click on GSX and the dropdown in the lower area in "Restart Coualt and rebuild airport cache" shows an upper horizontal band indicating that it takes 5 seconds. Now I click on Show GSX Menu by-passing You-Control or Shift+Ctrl+F12" and the only thing it does is place some white and orange cones around the aircraft.

As I've said, this clearly confirm the problem doesn't have anything to do with GSX, which IS WORKING. It's the simulator Simconnect menu that is not.

Maybe you are not fully aware of it but, what you might see as "the GSX menu", is NOT the "GSX menu", it's the sim own SIMCONNECT menu, which is used by all 3rd party applications with a menu, GSX or any other app doesn't have any control over its appearance and, if it doesn't appear, it's a problem in the sim installation.

GSX is clearly working from your report, only the sim menu is not.

Which, as I've said, it's caused by an incomplete install of the sim, or an upgrade made just with the Client. Will surely be fixed by uninstalling and reinstalling the sim, using the full installer.
Title: Re: Popup window problem in GSX
Post by: topejoan on July 15, 2022, 12:36:42 pm
I keep uninstalling Prepar3D, but it seems to me that it is not a SimConnect problem, I am attaching the couatl.log file, it still does not exit, it is drop-down with the GSX options, when I click on GSX and then on "Show GSX Menu by-passing You Control " or hit the "Shift+Crtl+F12" keys, with parking brakes set and engines off, I just get GSX to place orange and white cones around the aircraft.
Attached I send file couatl.log

Jose Angel Torres Perez
Mochales (Spain)
Title: Re: Popup window problem in GSX
Post by: virtuali on July 15, 2022, 01:21:22 pm
F12" keys, with parking brakes set and engines off, I just get GSX to place orange and white cones around the aircraft.

I can only repeat and confirm that, if you see the traffic cones created by GSX, it means GSX IS WORKING, it's the Simconnect menu of the sim itself that doesn't show up. Does the SODE menu works, for example ?
Title: Re: Popup window problem in GSX
Post by: topejoan on July 15, 2022, 03:01:49 pm
Now two questions: Where do I find the Simconnect inside the sim and how do I know if SODE works. Thanks in advance.

Jose Angel Torres Perez
  MOCHALES (Spain)
Title: Re: Popup window problem in GSX
Post by: topejoan on July 15, 2022, 04:48:14 pm
I just landed on UHBB, at the top of the simulator I clicked on ADD-ons, now on SODE 1.7.1 and I get a strip with the following text: "[SODE] JETWAY CONTROL SYSTEMis up and running (N=0) Module version 1.7.1". jpg is attached
Title: Re: Popup window problem in GSX
Post by: virtuali on July 15, 2022, 06:24:01 pm
I just landed on UHBB, at the top of the simulator I clicked on ADD-ons, now on SODE 1.7.1 and I get a strip with the following text: "[SODE] JETWAY CONTROL SYSTEMis up and running (N=0) Module version 1.7.1". jpg is attached

That's not the Simconnect menu, it's the green message bar which I think you should see in GSX too. The SODE menu is opened with TAB-S
Title: Re: Popup window problem in GSX
Post by: topejoan on July 16, 2022, 05:48:07 pm
I have already managed to see that the SODE works as seen in the attached file, now we will try with the Simconnect.
Title: Re: Popup window problem in GSX
Post by: virtuali on July 17, 2022, 10:03:44 am
I have already managed to see that the SODE works as seen in the attached file, now we will try with the Simconnect.

I had no doubt SODE works, just like GSX, as proven multiple times by the presence of traffic cones when you call it, meaning it's working. As I've said, so many times, the thing that is not working for you it's the simulator own Simconnect menu, which is shared by all 3rd apps.

That's why, as a further confirmation, I asked to verify if the same menu is working in SODE which, like GSX, has no relationship if SODE is working or not, if the sim menu has a problem, NO APP WITH A MENU WILL WORK. Or, more precisely, no app with a menu will show the menu, even if IT IS working.
Title: Re: Popup window problem in GSX
Post by: topejoan on July 17, 2022, 11:28:07 am
Could you tell me where I can find the "Simconnect" of the P3Dv5.3 sim?. Thanks

Jose Angel Torres Perez
Title: Re: Popup window problem in GSX
Post by: virtuali on July 18, 2022, 07:03:04 pm
Could you tell me where I can find the "Simconnect" of the P3Dv5.3 sim?. Thanks

Nowhere I said you are missing Simconnect. If you did, NOTHING will work. You are missing JUST the MENU. Have you done what I asked, trying to open the SODE menu with TAB-S, does it work ?
Title: Re: Popup window problem in GSX
Post by: topejoan on July 19, 2022, 08:44:37 pm
Dear Umberto, if I press TAB+S nothing happens, but if I press TAB+5, it comes out, just like the process of the photos I send you, the vehicles come out, the tow tractor, the helper comes out and says yes I'm ready, if I release the brakes, a message to immediately put the brakes back on, with which GSX works, but the menu still doesn't come out, with Ctrl+Shift+12 it still doesn't work. This seems very abnormal to me. Please any solution?.

Jose Angel Torres PĂ©rez
  Mochales (Spain)
Title: Re: Popup window problem in GSX
Post by: virtuali on July 20, 2022, 01:09:34 am
Dear Umberto, if I press TAB+S nothing happens

Clearly confirming the problem doesn't have ANYTHING to do with GSX, since even SODE cannot show the Simconnect menu because, as I've trying to tell you, what you are missing it's the Simconnet MENU ITSELF!

YOU ARE MISSING A PIECE OF THE SIM!!!

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but if I press TAB+5, it comes out, just like the process of the photos I send you

Nowhere in your screenshot I see the SODE menu ever coming out.

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, the vehicles come out, the tow tractor, the helper comes out and says yes I'm ready, if I release the brakes, a message to immediately put the brakes back on, with which GSX works, but the menu still doesn't come out, with Ctrl+Shift+12 it still doesn't work. This seems very abnormal to me. Please any solution?.

At least, you realized what I was trying to tell you so many times: GSX IS WORKING. Yes, of course this is not normal and, again, as I've said so many times, your simulator install is broken, because it's missing a piece, that is the Simconnect menu which is not working for some reason, most likely an incomplete or faulty or corrupted install of the sim.

Not seeing the SODE menu was the final proof the problem is the menu itself, hence the sim, not GSX.

Both GSX *and* SODE are just affected by the lack of it. I'm sure if you have another app with a menu ( a *SIMCONNECT* menu, similar to the GSX or SODE menu, not just "any" menu ), it won't work either, none of them will work, until you fix your P3D install.

Many users reported this is fixed by reverting to the previous Scaleform based menu, as explained here:

https://www.prepar3d.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=235715#p235715

If that works, your sim is only broken for the HTML5 version of the menu ( but it's still broken ), but the older Scaleform is still available, if HTML5 doesn't work.
Title: Re: Popup window problem in GSX
Post by: topejoan on July 29, 2022, 05:18:30 pm
Yes, I'm sorry, I have followed the indicated instructions but the drop-down still does not appear. I have other third party programs that use Simconnect, and they work fine, I have uninstalled them leaving only GSX and the problem continues, any solution.
Title: Re: Popup window problem in GSX
Post by: virtuali on July 30, 2022, 01:54:39 pm
I have other third party programs that use Simconnect, and they work fine

You still doesn't seem to understand, it seems you are confusing "Simconnect", with "Simconnect MENU". GSX DOES use Simconnect and, it's clearly working fine.

You said yourself you don't have the SODE menu either.  SODE, like GSX, in addition to using Simconnect, which is used by every possibly utility add-on out there, since is the official way to connect to the sim, ALSO use the Simconnect Menu.

It's the Simconnect MENU ( not Simconnect!!! ) which is broken in your sim and, it's affecting equally GSX and SODE and, as I've said so many times already, you need to fix that, and I offered several solutions already them, when applied, will fix BOTH GSX and SODE, which are BOTH 3rd party application with  Simconnect MENU which are NOT working, because your  Simconnect MENU is not working, not the apps themselves.

So, do you have OTHER 3rd party apps WITH a  Simconnect MENU that are working and DO SHOW THE MENU ?