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Products Support => JFK for FSX/P3D => Topic started by: SEdge on September 19, 2008, 05:07:00 am

Title: no buildings
Post by: SEdge on September 19, 2008, 05:07:00 am
okay so id love to buy your products   but nothing shows up.   no buildings  no terminals taxiways blotted out(but theyre visible when i go to top down view)    all but the jetways are visible. also the addon manager refuses to show up. This has also occured with my many attempts to purchase O'hare. i tried that experiment with putting simconnect.ini in my fsx files folder and all it says is     0.00000 SimConnect version 10.0.61242.0         i run vista   im not sure if that has anything to do with it. please help.
             Congrats on JFK
                            -Sean
Title: Re: no buildings
Post by: Razgriz on September 19, 2008, 05:42:26 am
It sounds like a problem with the addon manager/sim connect.
Title: Re: no buildings
Post by: baw192 on September 19, 2008, 11:33:25 am
Hi,

I had the same problem when I installed it. I was able to solve it by running FSX as an admin. Then I was asked if I trust virtuali software or somethng like that. After answering that with yes, the buildings showed up.

Hope this helped.
Title: Re: no buildings
Post by: virtuali on September 19, 2008, 12:22:38 pm
0.00000 SimConnect version 10.0.61242.0

It looks like you are still on SP1. As per system requirements on the product page, JFK requires either SP2 or Acceleration Pack installed.

If you installed any of these two, and your Simconnect is still at 61242, your FSX installation might be messed up, should be possible to fix it with a repair.
Title: Re: no buildings
Post by: GarethW on September 19, 2008, 12:44:04 pm
Hi, I installed JFK to evaluate. No buildings showed up even though I validated all run requests. I decided to uninstall as I have a rule now that since flight simulator troubleshooting is a rabid time killer if it doesn't do what it says it will do I remove and move on.

So I uninstalled and then my problems began. It was 'tricky'. It asked if I wanted to uninstall Addon Manager (who asked for Addon Manager?) and then something called 'couatl' (with no explanation as it what it is, or its function). For now, I replied negative to both.

Now a couatl error window pops up every time I start FSX. I am sole user and administrator of my PC and also a retired PC Tech. Couatl resides in FSX\fdreamteam\ but permission to remove is denied whatever permissions exist! This is not on. Removing all references to couatl in the Registry makes no difference. So, effectively my innocent desire to check out a new product JFK has already wasted a lot of my time. I rest my case.

I would appreciate an early from fsdreamteam as to how to eradicate this nuisance Couatl error. BTW I have tried re-installing JFK in the hope that the uninstall will allow me to remove the Couatl programme but it will not re-install, detecting a different error. The Couatl error popup refers me to an 'enigmaprotector' email address. I think fsdreamteam may prefer to provide a solution.

Regards

Gareth

PS I use FSX Sp2
Title: Re: no buildings
Post by: GarethW on September 19, 2008, 01:08:05 pm
Don't worry I sorted it thanks. By ignoring all the many overwrite errors I managed to re-install JFK and uninstall took out Addon manager and Couatl for me. I now recall Addon Manager also caused me untold grief some years ago in the the way that it took up residence on my PC and exerted control over options I felt rightly belonged to me. Still, I am aware of the rationale in favour of Addon Manager and if it works for folks, good luck to them.

Interestingly I could find no helpful technical references to Couatl on the web but it is described by Wikipedia as a Dungeons & Dragons serpentine creature that is always 'lawful, good'.  I really wouldn't know about that as I'm not into violent, demonic games like D&G. To me they are more of a nightmare than a dream, but then each to his own. Who has the time for D&G and FSX!?

Happy landings all

Gareth

Title: Re: no buildings
Post by: virtuali on September 19, 2008, 01:27:59 pm
All right, I've edited my post, since you seem to have sorted it out.

However, if you had a look at the manual, there's also an explanation about the meaning of that name. Couatl is not just a D&D creature, but it is a creature half-snake, half-bird from ancient Aztec mythology. Since Couatl.exe is a scripting engine based on the Python programming language for a Flight Simulator, we tought that a reference to a "Flying Snake" might have been nice.
Title: Re: no buildings
Post by: ganesh on September 19, 2008, 04:19:57 pm
I would appreciate an early from fsdreamteam as to how to eradicate this nuisance Couatl error. BTW I have tried re-installing JFK in the hope that the uninstall will allow me to remove the Couatl programme but it will not re-install, detecting a different error. The Couatl error popup refers me to an 'enigmaprotector' email address. I think fsdreamteam may prefer to provide a solution.

Just out of curiousity, do you remember the exact error message that Couatl was showing? It might be helpful for me to know more about it.

Ganesh
Developer of Couatl
Title: Re: no buildings
Post by: mickthebike on September 19, 2008, 06:20:23 pm
Same here. No buildings in JFK and Zurich.

Several installs failed. As normal user than as admin, online & offline.

I downloaded ~300MB so i expect it to work.

What shall I do? Vista64 & FSX with SP2. No error messages, no messages at all...simply no buildings.

Thanks Michael
Title: Re: no buildings
Post by: virtuali on September 19, 2008, 06:27:39 pm
Several installs failed. As normal user than as admin, online & offline.

What do you mean by "installs failed" ? Have you got some errors messages during installation ? If yes, it's normal you don't see anything because, if the installer encounters issues, usually because of either your scenery.cfg or dll.xml files that were already corrupted before the installation, the installer will notify that, and will stop the installation, rolling back all files as if you haven't installed anything.

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I downloaded ~300MB so i expect it to work.

Of course it work, otherwise you wouldn't much positive comments as we had until now (note that on support forums, you usually see only problem reports, but we are getting a lot of positive feedback instead)

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No error messages, no messages at all...simply no buildings.

No messages at all, is not normal.

Assuming the installer completed successfully, when you first launch FSX, you SHOULD see TWO confirmation requests, one for the Addon Manager, and one for the Couatl engine. You have to reply Yes to both, this is also explained on the manual, with screenshots that will show you how the messages should look like.

If you haven't see these confirmation messages, maybe you encountered the dreaded Windows "lockdown policy" problem, that prevents any new executable to be trusted. There's a solution for this, please confirm this is the case.
Title: Re: no buildings
Post by: Richard McDonald Woods on September 19, 2008, 06:46:59 pm
I have installed KJFK for Vista/FSX and got no error messages at all. However, no matter what I fiddle with in FSX.Options.Settings.Display, I cannot see any buildings. Just lots of jetways from which passengers would fall to their deaths :o

What to do?
Regards, Richard
Title: Re: no buildings
Post by: virtuali on September 19, 2008, 07:09:54 pm
I have installed KJFK for Vista/FSX and got no error messages at all.

Alright, no error message but, as I've asked to the other poster, have you got the Windows confirmation request to trust the modules ? If you have, you need to trust them both, in Windows and in FSX, then exit from FSX (because sometimes it doesn't accept new trusted modules the first time it launches them) and launching it again.

If you haven't seen any messages at all, that's an entirely different issue that might require a different type of diagnosis.
Title: Re: no buildings
Post by: Richard McDonald Woods on September 19, 2008, 07:12:47 pm
Apologies Umberto, I meant that I have had no ERROR messages. I have answered YES to the 2 trust questions. I have restarted FSX, fiddled with the display parameters but see no buildings. I also do not see the ADD-on Manager listed under Add Ons tab.
Cheers, Richard
Title: Re: no buildings
Post by: jacob123 on September 19, 2008, 07:32:34 pm
I have also installed JFK for fsx/sp2 using xp and none of the buildings or the addon manger showed up. Before JFK I had O'Hare installed and everything worked well but I did have the same problem for Zurich as I did in JFK. After each install I ahd no errors and I have trusted the modules and I have also installed the MS Visual C++ again. I looked at this post from a while ago:    http://www.fsdreamteam.com/forum/index.php?topic=238.0    and I have the same problem as the user Mickey. Why is that O'Hare works fine but Zurich and JFK don't?
Title: Re: no buildings
Post by: virtuali on September 19, 2008, 07:41:16 pm
I looked at this post from a while ago

Information for that posts are now obsolete, because the new installers are always getting the very latest version of the files from the internet.

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that O'Hare works fine but Zurich and JFK don't?

The 3 sceneries works perfectly together, it's just that you need to be sure you are using the most current versions for all of them. If in doubt, re-download their installers again.
Title: Re: no buildings
Post by: jacob123 on September 19, 2008, 07:47:30 pm
I am using the most current versions for all of them. :)
Title: Re: no buildings
Post by: virtuali on September 19, 2008, 08:34:13 pm
I am using the most current versions for all of them

You probably aren't becase, if you had, the most current releases for Zurich and O'Hare *already* used the same Addon Manager as JFK, because their installer (if it was really the current one) already downloaded the relevant files from the internet. Since the location is just one, if you had the latest Zurich and the latest O'hare, there's no reason why it wouldnì't work with JFK, because you were already using the very latest file

Another reason might be that either FSX didn't close properly so the installer wasn't able to put all the correct files in place.

Try to reboot, Uninstall JFK, reply YES to BOTH questions about removing the Addon Mananger and the Couatl Engine, then reinstall JFK.
Title: Re: no buildings
Post by: jacob123 on September 19, 2008, 08:50:20 pm
I don't think you understand me. I doubled check to make sure that I have the latest releases for all 3 and I do and tried everything else that you suggested in all your previous posts to people that had the same problem as me. But you didn't answer my question. Why is that O'Hare works fine but Zurich and JFK don't if they all use the same addon manager? I am kinda kinda frustrated because I bought Zurich X and now I can't use it.
Title: Re: no buildings
Post by: virtuali on September 19, 2008, 09:48:38 pm
But you didn't answer my question. Why is that O'Hare works fine but Zurich and JFK don't if they all use the same addon manager?

Yes, I did replied to this question. They DO work fine together.

Now, we should try to understand why they don't work together on YOUR system, which is an entirely different thing.

First check, can you please email me your scenery.cfg file ? Is located at:

%ALLUSERSPROFILE%\Microsoft\FSX
Title: Re: no buildings
Post by: SEdge on September 20, 2008, 05:21:11 am
when i try to run sp2 it says system administrator has set policies to prevent installation.  do you know how i can change these policies  once again i run vista.

              -Sean
Title: Re: no buildings
Post by: mickthebike on September 20, 2008, 07:11:57 am
Clyde as far I remember uninstall from Vista/system/programmanager.

Those two confirmation messages, as far as I remember, only appeared while installing as admin.
But it makes no difference as no builidings show up.

Thanks
Title: Re: no buildings
Post by: virtuali on September 20, 2008, 01:04:00 pm
But it makes no difference as no builidings show up.

Again...usual questions

- Do you see the Addon Manager in the Addons menu ?

- If yes, what does it say about Zurich ? If no, have you trusted the module to run ? Have you FSX + Sp2 or Accel installed ?

- Do you see any kind of error messages when starting ?

- Are you sure you are using the current version of all sceneries ?
Title: Re: no buildings
Post by: mickthebike on September 20, 2008, 03:45:11 pm
Addon Manager? I've actived both sceneries in the scenery library.
And no I didn't find anything addon alike. Where?

I'm running FSX as normal user because I've a lot of things installed without a virus scanner.
Therefore if you ask me to run FSX as admin I'd look for other sceneries but hopefully there's
another solution to this.

FSX & SP2 on Vista 64

Title: Re: no buildings
Post by: virtuali on September 20, 2008, 04:40:14 pm
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And no I didn't find anything addon alike. Where?

Exactly where I've said. In the Addons menu. If you don't see it, it means is not running.

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I'm running FSX as normal user because I've a lot of things installed without a virus scanner.

Don't assume for an instant that, running as a standar user, will protect you from virus *instead* of a virus scanner. If it was so easy, the antivirus companies would have bankrupt ed already.

Sorry no, it's more complex than that, viruses and malware can still do a lot of damage. The only thing that a virs might not be able to do on a limited user account, is to entirely cripple the whole machine and install itself to start automatically, but that doesn't mean that it would be otherwise harmless in a limited user account.

Without admin access, any program you run (including malware that you might run without realizing it) has full access to your *own* folders, and it can read, write, delete, corrupt your documents, emails, etc.

More info here:
http://anti-virus-rants.blogspot.com/2007/02/limited-security-benefits-of-limited.html


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Therefore if you ask me to run FSX as admin I'd look for other sceneries but hopefully there's  another solution to this.

Try to run the *installer* in admin mode, than see if it works with FSX running in standard user mode.
Title: Re: no buildings
Post by: SEdge on September 20, 2008, 05:06:11 pm
wait what should i be doing.

                    -Sean
Title: Re: no buildings
Post by: FunknNasty on September 21, 2008, 12:34:37 am
Can someone please point me in the right direction on resolving my issue of no objects while in replay view. The only thing I see are ground textures and jetways ....everything else but the default scenery and my user aircraft are missing.

My config:
XP32 sp3
FSX sp2
Title: Re: no buildings
Post by: virtuali on September 21, 2008, 01:04:06 am
Can someone please point me in the right direction on resolving my issue of no objects while in replay view.

This is a known issue, all our sceneries are not compatible with the standard FS replay, because the 3d objects are not in the BGL files, but are created on the fly in C++. This doesn't work with the replay.

I suggest to use FS Recorder instead, which is *way* better than the default replay:

http://www.fs-recorder.net/
Title: Re: no buildings
Post by: SEdge on September 21, 2008, 03:47:49 am
where is this addon tab that everyone keeps talking about. is this the one that should come up when  you hit  alt    while flying.   i still  cant install  sp2  btw.   i tried to  download  from multiple websites but the same result came up every time.   any help is much appreciated.
                -Sean
Title: Re: no buildings
Post by: virtuali on September 21, 2008, 10:32:30 am
if you are still on fsx sp1, jfk would not run. The addons bar will not show, and so the scenery
Title: Re: no buildings
Post by: Richard McDonald Woods on September 21, 2008, 03:04:19 pm
Umberto,
Your reply was just what I required. Re-checked my installation and found that my reload did not include FSX SP2 install. That fixed it, and I now have buildings!
Many thanks,
Cheers, Richard
Title: Re: no buildings
Post by: SEdge on September 21, 2008, 03:36:06 pm
would there be just jetways and taxi lines. cause thats what im dealing with.
                   -Sean
Title: Re: no buildings
Post by: virtuali on September 21, 2008, 07:18:06 pm
would there be just jetways and taxi lines. cause thats what im dealing with.

This happens if the Addon Manager is not running. It will not appear in the Addons menu, and it will not create 3d objects, leaving just jetways and ground lines.

If the Addon Mananger is not running, it usually because either the user hasn't installer FSX SP2 (or Accell. Pack, which is the same in this regard), or because another program, usually an antivirus, blocked it.

Another issue that surfaced recently, it seems that there might be some compatibility problems if the user has installed Visual Studio 2008, which apparently clash with our module, that is written with VS 2005 SP1
Title: Re: no buildings
Post by: ingoke on September 21, 2008, 09:22:36 pm
Hello,

I´ve also experienced some problems today. After a long haul flight with destination KJFK I ended up with Terminal 4 not showing up except the jetways. Very strange. And some parts of the tower were also missing (the black parts). I have to admit, I was a little disappointed. After a reboot and restart of FSX everything was back to normal, but now the docking system didn´t work. So another reboot and another try and voilá, everything worked again. Can´t wait to see what happens next time  ;)...

Greetings from Germany.

Ingo
Title: Re: no buildings
Post by: SEdge on September 24, 2008, 12:00:43 am
is there any way that i could manually put the files from sp2 into fsx without the use of the installer. my computer still wont let me install it. ive tried a lot. thanks again.
             -Sean
Title: Re: no buildings
Post by: virtuali on September 24, 2008, 12:14:18 am
is there any way that i could manually put the files from sp2 into fsx without the use of the installer. my computer still wont let me install it. ive tried a lot. thanks again.

Unfortunately, not. The SP2 installer is quite complex: it's not just copying files, is also updating several system libraries, the most important for us is the SP2 Simconnect, and it can't be installed without running the MS installer.

However, the very fact that you can't install FSX SP2, means you have other problems with FSX or (worse) with the whole Windows installation.
Title: Re: no buildings
Post by: SEdge on September 24, 2008, 12:32:18 am
so should i try uninstalling fsx. would that help(hopefully)
         -Sean
Title: Re: no buildings
Post by: virtuali on September 24, 2008, 12:49:21 am
so should i try uninstalling fsx. would that help(hopefully)

Yes, it should probably work.

If you have addons with Uninstallers (like ours), it's best if you uninstall them all first.

Then, if you have FSX SP1, uninstall that one first, reboot, Uninstall FSX, reboot. Remove the FSX folder, if something is left, then you can start from scratch.

When reinstalling, don't install any addon, until you are finished with FSX + SP1 + SP2 and verifyed that everything is working.
Title: Re: no buildings
Post by: SEdge on September 24, 2008, 01:17:15 am
okay thanks. its unistalling. i let you know what happens  and if i can install sp2. thank you.
          -Sean
Title: Re: no buildings
Post by: SEdge on September 24, 2008, 03:49:26 am
still wont let me install service pack 2. any suggestions?
          -Sean
Title: Re: no buildings
Post by: virtuali on September 24, 2008, 09:39:01 am
still wont let me install service pack 2. any suggestions?

Do you have any kind of error message ?
Title: Re: no buildings
Post by: SEdge on September 24, 2008, 01:58:32 pm
it says the system administrator has sent policies to prevent this installation. i dont understand why this machine would let me install fsx and sp1 but not sp2. thanks.
             -Sean
Title: Re: no buildings
Post by: SEdge on September 25, 2008, 10:25:49 pm
it takes me to the screen with the readme and install or cancel options. and when i click on install it loads for about a minute then it just says system administrator set policies preveting the installation.
               -Sean
Title: Re: no buildings
Post by: virtuali on September 25, 2008, 11:37:49 pm
it takes me to the screen with the readme and install or cancel options. and when i click on install it loads for about a minute then it just says system administrator set policies preveting the installation.

You can try running the SP2 setup as administrator. (right click on the EXE, select "Run as administrator"). If you are not logged as administrator, it will ask you user/password for an account with admin rights on your machine.
Title: Re: no buildings
Post by: SEdge on September 26, 2008, 12:00:24 am
alright bear with me. ive right clicked everything related to the installation of this service pack and nothing has come up ragarding run as administrator. sorry.
            -Sean
Title: Re: no buildings
Post by: Razgriz on September 26, 2008, 02:45:49 am
You should be on the administrator account on your computer.
Title: Re: no buildings
Post by: SEdge on September 26, 2008, 03:41:38 am
check. thenn???
         -Sean


okay  wait now i see where you get the run as administrator from but its only for select programs.
Title: Re: no buildings
Post by: Razgriz on September 26, 2008, 04:03:54 am
Explore into your CD drive, usually the E: drive, right click hit explorer.  The autorun.exe should do the trick.
Title: Re: no buildings
Post by: SEdge on September 26, 2008, 04:14:27 am
autorun comes up in notepad. what next. thanks
       -Sean
Title: Re: no buildings
Post by: Razgriz on September 26, 2008, 04:21:12 am
Find an executable installer.
Title: Re: no buildings
Post by: SEdge on September 26, 2008, 04:30:00 am
windows installer???
         -Sean


it says that autorun is a read only file and cannot be changed.
Title: Re: no buildings
Post by: virtuali on September 26, 2008, 12:15:41 pm
Explore into your CD drive, usually the E: drive, right click hit explorer.  The autorun.exe should do the trick.

He's trying to install SP2. This doesn't have anyting to do with the CD drive, and certainly it wouldn't have an autorun.inf, probably he still has the original FSX CD in the drive.
Title: Re: no buildings
Post by: virtuali on September 26, 2008, 12:18:23 pm
windows installer??? it says that autorun is a read only file and cannot be changed.

Sean, I think it's definitely better if you try with Microsoft support. You are trying to install a Microsoft product (FSX SP2) on a Microsoft OS (Vista), they should be able to help you.

Try to explain the problem exactly like this: FSX SP2 refuses to install and gives a message that the system administrator has set a policy which prevents the installation.
Title: Re: no buildings
Post by: pme on September 29, 2008, 12:16:30 pm
Hi fellow flightsimmers,

First of all I want to congretulate the Dreamteam for making such wonderfull scenery.
It looks fantastic in FS2004. But, as others, I have problems installing in FSX.

I tried to install Zurich and JFK.
I use Windows XP with all the service packs (SP3 is the latest).
I had FSX with SP1. (The install manual states that SP1 OR higher is required).
After reading in the forum I discovered that SP2 is needed, so I uninstalled LSZH and KJFK and installed SP2 for FSX.

After installing the two airfields again I had no confirmation requests for the two modules, no addon manager under the Addons tab and obviously no buidings on both airfields. The installers I used were downloaded on the 24th of September.

Afterwards I installed the Addon Manager and the C++ distributable seprately, but that made no difference.

In the install guide something is said about "Simconnect". I had no problems during the installs of the two Service Packs in FSX, so I don't think I would have to repair FSX or the service packs.

Can you give me advice, for I can't think of anything else to do.

Kind regards,
Peter
Title: Re: no buildings
Post by: virtuali on September 29, 2008, 01:35:51 pm
I had FSX with SP1. (The install manual states that SP1 OR higher is required).

Thank you for pointing it out. Probably the fsdt_install_guide.pdf should be updated, but the web page for JFK clearly indicates SP2 or Acceleration as a requirement.

http://www.fsdreamteam.com/products_jfk.html

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After installing the two airfields again I had no confirmation requests for the two modules, no addon manager under the Addons tab and obviously no buidings on both airfields. The installers I used were downloaded on the 24th of September.

The most important information we need to diagnose your problem, is missing:

The first time, when you originally tried to install in SP1, have you got a confirmation request to run both modules ? And, did you replied Yes to both questions (Windows and FSX), just one, or none at all ? If yes, then there's one way to diagnose the issue.

If, instead, you haven't got any confirmation request, even the first time, then it's an entirely different issue, which needs a different solution.

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Afterwards I installed the Addon Manager and the C++ distributable seprately, but that made no difference.

There no reason to do this. The stand-alone Addon Manager installer does exactly the same things and includes exactly the same set of files of the scenery, minus the scenery. And, both installers automatically installs the C++ redistributable.
Title: Re: no buildings
Post by: pme on September 29, 2008, 03:55:41 pm
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The first time, when you originally tried to install in SP1, have you got a confirmation request to run both modules ? And, did you replied Yes to both questions (Windows and FSX), just one, or none at all ? If yes, then there's one way to diagnose the issue.

If, instead, you haven't got any confirmation request, even the first time, then it's an entirely different issue, which needs a different solution.

The first time, when I tried to install in FSX SP1 there was no confirmation request whatsoever. I have seen no difference after installing in FSX SP1 as well as in -SP2.
Title: Re: no buildings
Post by: virtuali on September 29, 2008, 05:07:05 pm
The first time, when I tried to install in FSX SP1 there was no confirmation request whatsoever. I have seen no difference after installing in FSX SP1 as well as in -SP2.

If this is the case, it doesn't have anything to do with the scenery or the installer, but it might be a Windows config problem.

Open REGEDIT, and check this key:

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\WinTrust\Trust Providers\Software Publishing

Check that the value of this key is 0x23c00  (23c00 hexadecimal), that should be the default value when Windows is installed. If is set to any other value, set it back to 0x23c00.
Title: Re: no buildings
Post by: pme on September 29, 2008, 09:26:43 pm
The value is shown in the editor as 0x00023c00(146432). When I try to change that the value is shown as 23c00 Hexadecimal. So that seems OK to me.
Title: Re: no buildings
Post by: virtuali on September 29, 2008, 09:56:56 pm
When I try to change that the value is shown as 23c00 Hexadecimal. So that seems OK to me.

Ok, so it's not that issue.

Try this one, instead:

- Open your FSX.CFG, located at %APPDATA%\Microsoft\FSX

- Look for all the lines containing bglmanx.dll, together with a long string of random chars and delete them all

- Save and exit. Launch FSX and note if now it asks to trust the Addon Manager module.
Title: Re: no buildings
Post by: pme on September 30, 2008, 11:30:20 am
Sorry to have kept you waiting.

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Look for all the lines containing bglmanx.dll, together with a long string of random chars and delete them all

I found two lines in FSX.CFG which contained the bglmanx.dll and deleted them.
Started FSX twice, to be sure, but that didn't make a difference. Still no confirmation requests.

Just for your information: when I look in the FSX.CFG afterwards, so after starting FSX twice, one line with bglmanx.dll in it is back.
The bglmanx.dll is in the root of FSX; is that OK?
Title: Re: no buildings
Post by: virtuali on September 30, 2008, 12:28:32 pm
Just for your information: when I look in the FSX.CFG afterwards, so after starting FSX twice, one line with bglmanx.dll in it is back.

Are you sure you haven't trusted anything coming from "Virtuali s.a.s." ? In that case, this behaviour would be normal, and it's fine. However, if FSX SP2 is correctly installed, the module SHOULD run!

NOTE: it's a known FSX bug (and it's explained on the manual as well) that, the *first* time a module is trusted (regardless if it has been trusted by you explicitely, or by Windows on your behalf if you choose to trust anything coming from us automatically), it would not run immediately. You need to clean exit from FSX, then re-launch it again, and from that moment, the module will run.

If you are *really* sure you never trusted this module ever, and you never instructed Windows to trust anything from us, even during with previous installations of other sceneries that use the Addon Manager (like Cloud9, Aerosoft Florence, etc), then something else is wrong either with your Windows installation, or there's a conflict with another module we never heard of. OR, your FSX SP2 installation wasn't entirely successful.

NOTE: there are 3 versions of Simconnect active on your system, if you had FSX, then FSX SP1 and then FSX + SP2. These versions are all available at the same time. The fact that *other* addons that maybe use the FSX or the FSX SP1 version of Simconnect runs correctly, doesn't mean your SP2 Simconnect is working. It's perfectly possible to end up in a situation with the other 2 Simconnects installed fine (with all the addons using them working), and having the SP2 Simconnect not working, so only the modules requiring this one (like our Addon Manager) would't run.


You can try to activate the Simconnect diagnostic mode:

Open notepad, and copy the following text:

Code: [Select]
[SimConnect]
level=verbose
console=1
RedirectStdOutToConsole=1
OutputDebugString=1
; file=c:\simconnect%03u.log
; file_next_index=0
; file_max_index=9

Save the file as SIMCONNECT.INI in this folder:

Documents And Settings\YOUR LOGIN NAME\Documents\Microsoft Flight Simulator X Files

At the next FSX launch, you should see a text window with diagnostic message, that should tell you what's going wrong. Let me know what you are getting, so we can have an idea what's happening.

Title: Re: no buildings
Post by: pme on September 30, 2008, 02:34:55 pm
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If you are *really* sure you never trusted this module ever, and you never instructed Windows to trust anything from us, even during with previous installations of other sceneries that use the Addon Manager (like Cloud9, Aerosoft Florence, etc), then something else is wrong either with your Windows installation, or there's a conflict with another module we never heard of. OR, your FSX SP2 installation wasn't entirely successful.

When you ask me that I start to hesitate. I installed LSZH in FS9 when it came out. The problem is, I can't remember installing it in FSX and, if I did, if I used it.
I can probably check that in an image of the harddisk I made around that time. I will come back on this when I have checked that.

I use ZoneAlarm Pro and cheked the programs control tab. I can see there that the "Couatl scripting engine" was trusted on 26th of September, but nothing on the Addon manager.

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At the next FSX launch, you should see a text window with diagnostic message, that should tell you what's going wrong. Let me know what you are getting, so we can have an idea what's happening.

At first several dll's are loaded, but not the addon manager. After a few seconds so much information is passing that I can't read it anymore.

I am starting to think; would it be wise to start all over again? I have made images of the Windows and FSX partition before I installed FSX SP2.
Title: Re: no buildings
Post by: virtuali on September 30, 2008, 02:51:48 pm
At first several dll's are loaded, but not the addon manager. After a few seconds so much information is passing that I can't read it anymore.

If you press the Pause key on the keyboard, you can pause the screen scrolling, and go back to read what was written. The first lines are the most interesting.
Title: Re: no buildings
Post by: pme on September 30, 2008, 03:32:35 pm
These are the first lines:

0.00000 Simconnect Version 10.0.61259.0

0.04584 Server: Scope=local, Protocol=Pipe, Name=\\.\pipe\Microsoft Flight Simulator\Simconnect, MaxClients=64
0.11572 Server: Scope=local, Protocol=IPv4, Address=127.0.0.1, Port=1134, MaxClients=64

1.38254 DLL loaded: Path="Modules\LVLD.dll" Version="1.4.2.1"
1.42845 DLL loaded: Path="Feelthere\B737\PIC737XH.dll" Version="1.0.0.1"
1.55747 Panels data export found and set to 20AF19E8
5.12049 DLL loaded: Path="Modules\FSUIPC4.dll" Version="4.3.0.0"
5.21960 DLL loaded: Path="I:\FSX\Modules\LeonardoSH.dll" Version="<unknown>"

After that this infomation disappears and a lot of scolling information is coming. This is a very long list and I don't know to copy this. But I assume this is enough.

I'm sorry to tell you that I don't have an image of FSX at the time of installation of LSZH. It looks like I installed it in FS9 on the 14th of january.
Title: Re: no buildings
Post by: virtuali on September 30, 2008, 03:38:46 pm
After that this infomation disappears and a lot of scolling information is coming. This is a very long list and I don't know to copy this. But I assume this is enough.

It's enough if you are sure there aren't any other DLL that were loaded.

From what you are getting, it seems FSX is not even *trying* to load bglmanx.dll, so this at least excludes the possibility that the module was loaded, and it failed to run or crashed for any reason. So, the problem doesn't lies in the module itself...

Can you please check your DLL.XML file, located at:

%APPDATA%\Microsoft\FSX

and post its content here ?
Title: Re: no buildings
Post by: pme on September 30, 2008, 03:48:26 pm
Here are the contents of XML.DLL

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="Windows-1252" ?>
- <SimBase.Document Type="Launch" version="1,0">
  <Descr>Launch</Descr>
  <Filename>dll.xml</Filename>
  <Disabled>False</Disabled>
  <Launch.ManualLoad>False</Launch.ManualLoad>
- <Launch.Addon>
  <Name>Addon Manager</Name>
  <Disabled>False</Disabled>
  <ManualLoad>False</ManualLoad>
  <Path>bglmanx.dll</Path>
  </Launch.Addon>
- <Launch.Addon>
  <Name>Level-D Simulations</Name>
  <Disabled>False</Disabled>
  <ManualLoad>False</ManualLoad>
  <Path>Modules\LVLD.dll</Path>
  </Launch.Addon>
- <Launch.Addon>
  <Name>FeelThere PIC737X Helper</Name>
  <Disabled>False</Disabled>
  <Path>FeelThere\B737\PIC737XH.dll</Path>
  </Launch.Addon>
- <Launch.Addon>
  <Name>Object Placement Tool</Name>
  <Disabled>True</Disabled>
  <ManualLoad>False</ManualLoad>
  <Path>..\Microsoft Flight Simulator X SDK\SDK\Mission Creation Kit\object_placement.dll</Path>
  </Launch.Addon>
- <Launch.Addon>
  <Name>Traffic Toolbox</Name>
  <Disabled>True</Disabled>
  <ManualLoad>False</ManualLoad>
  <Path>..\Microsoft Flight Simulator X SDK\SDK\Environment Kit\Traffic Toolbox SDK\traffictoolbox.dll</Path>
  </Launch.Addon>
- <Launch.Addon>
  <Name>Visual Effects Tool</Name>
  <Disabled>True</Disabled>
Title: Re: no buildings
Post by: virtuali on September 30, 2008, 03:51:45 pm
Here are the contents of XML.DLL

Are you sure you posted the whole file ? That doesn't look like a legal XML file (is not closed). Try to simply Attach the file here (press "Additional Options"), instead of copying it and pasting.
Title: Re: no buildings
Post by: pme on September 30, 2008, 03:59:45 pm
Sorry, here it is, but I really think that is all.

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Title: Re: no buildings
Post by: virtuali on September 30, 2008, 04:04:16 pm
Sorry, here it is, but I really think that is all.

Yes, you haven't copied it all, the last lines were missing. The attached one is fine, instead.

Try with this one I've slightly edited.



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Title: Re: no buildings
Post by: pme on September 30, 2008, 04:19:41 pm
No luck i'm afraid. And I started FSX, exited and started it again.
Would it help when I stopped my firewall and antivirus?
Title: Re: no buildings
Post by: virtuali on September 30, 2008, 04:21:42 pm
No luck i'm afraid. And I started FSX, exited and started it again. Would it help when I stopped my firewall and antivirus?

You can try.
Title: Re: no buildings
Post by: pme on September 30, 2008, 04:33:39 pm
Well, that didn't make any difference as well.
Title: Re: no buildings
Post by: virtuali on September 30, 2008, 04:35:40 pm
I'm sorry to be out of options.

Just try this last one:

- Uninstall JFK, reply "Yes" when asked to remove the Addon Manager

- Reboot.

- Reinstall JFK

- Try to run it again but, as I've said before, the first time FSX launches, it might not run, and this is normal. Try it at least twice, after closing FSX cleanly.
Title: Re: no buildings
Post by: pme on September 30, 2008, 05:56:00 pm
It still doesn't work.

I must say that I very much appreciate  the time and efford that you have taken to help me.

For the moment there seems to be no solution to my problem, and off course, I was allready out of options the first time I contacted you.

Better to let it rest for a while. May be a solution will present itself in the near future.

In the mean time all I can do is to let you know when I have found a solution and come back to this forum at regular times.

Thanks again,

Peter
Title: Re: no buildings
Post by: Silverbird on October 01, 2008, 09:16:38 pm
It still doesn't work.

I must say that I very much appreciate  the time and efford that you have taken to help me.

For the moment there seems to be no solution to my problem, and off course, I was allready out of options the first time I contacted you.

Better to let it rest for a while. May be a solution will present itself in the near future.

In the mean time all I can do is to let you know when I have found a solution and come back to this forum at regular times.

Thanks again,

Peter

HI Peter that is indeed a strange thing happening with your install maybe something happened when you upgraded from sp1 to sp2 or could it be that other module is causing a conflict? I wish I could help more but my knowledge is limited hope you get it to work soon.
Title: Re: no buildings. Finaly succeeded
Post by: pme on November 10, 2008, 10:07:06 pm
I finaly succeeded in making LSZH, KJFK and KORD visible in FSX.

It looks like all I had to do was to remove a minus sign which was showing in the [trusted] section of the FSX.CFG at the end of the line. Every time I installed one of the airfields the bglmanx.dll file showed up in the trusted section while no messages came asking about trusting this file. The lines in the [trusted] section showed like this:

X:\FSX\fsdreamteam\couatl\couatl.exe.incuoquiqoeloouibirwhtnwckwtowwzaabiecaq=-1
X:\FSX\bglmanx.dll.nehubrluraqohniwiztbannruqcnonriboecbkel=-1

When I removed the minus sign in front of the Nr 1, so that it showed =1, the problems were solved.

I must mention that somewhere in the forum someone advised to uninstall the "Microsoft Visual C++ 2008 Redistributable", because it could interfere with the 2005 version installed bij the Dreamteam programs. So I uninstalled that program some time ago, but with no result at the time.

I thought I should mention this because quite a few people seem to have problems with the addon menu not showing in FSX. After the two things I did mentioned above, the addon menu does show up in FSX now.

I am very glad it all works now, because I think FSDreamTeam is one of the best in making airfield scenery at the moment. It was a shame I couldn't see the airfields in FSX, but now I can, and they are a magnificent pice of work.

Succes to you all, and happy flying.

Peter 
Title: Re: no buildings. Finaly succeeded
Post by: Silverbird on November 10, 2008, 10:43:11 pm
I finaly succeeded in making LSZH, KJFK and KORD visible in FSX.

It looks like all I had to do was to remove a minus sign which was showing in the [trusted] section of the FSX.CFG at the end of the line. Every time I installed one of the airfields the bglmanx.dll file showed up in the trusted section while no messages came asking about trusting this file. The lines in the [trusted] section showed like this:

X:\FSX\fsdreamteam\couatl\couatl.exe.incuoquiqoeloouibirwhtnwckwtowwzaabiecaq=-1
X:\FSX\bglmanx.dll.nehubrluraqohniwiztbannruqcnonriboecbkel=-1

When I removed the minus sign in front of the Nr 1, so that it showed =1, the problems were solved.

I must mention that somewhere in the forum someone advised to uninstall the "Microsoft Visual C++ 2008 Redistributable", because it could interfere with the 2005 version installed bij the Dreamteam programs. So I uninstalled that program some time ago, but with no result at the time.

I thought I should mention this because quite a few people seem to have problems with the addon menu not showing in FSX. After the two things I did mentioned above, the addon menu does show up in FSX now.

I am very glad it all works now, because I think FSDreamTeam is one of the best in making airfield scenery at the moment. It was a shame I couldn't see the airfields in FSX, but now I can, and they are a magnificent pice of work.

Succes to you all, and happy flying.

Peter 

That's great news Peter! IM glade you were able to find the problem, its amazing that the cause was something written in fsx in the trusted section . and it will definitely help people that run into the same problem. :)