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Title: Loud truck engine sound
Post by: disco79stu on July 01, 2019, 11:48:41 pm
Hi,

I want to get rid of the very loud truck engine sound when I'm on external view, but I can't find the file that is responsible.
I already renamed (muted) all engine and idle sounds, plus the annoying beeping of the forklifts, but there is still a diesel-like truck idle sound left.

Unfortunately, since you can't set the volume for different types of sound individually, I have to get rid of the files completely.

Can anyone tell me where the file might be?

BG
Stu
Title: Re: Loud truck engine sound
Post by: thomasfa on July 02, 2019, 07:47:27 am
Hello,

This truck noise also bothers me a lot. Especially when I am in the cockpit, this noise is too loud.
I hope there is a solution for this.

Thomas
Title: Re: Loud truck engine sound
Post by: a2h on July 02, 2019, 10:19:12 am
Same for me. Both luggage trucks sound like a piston engine.

I remember on previous versions some users (me including) had this sound coming from the fuel-truck. Now on my end the fueltruck is fine, but instead the luggage trucks make this loud noise.

Well anyways. I am really happy and thankful for this free update. So kudos to the FSDT guys!
Title: Re: Loud truck engine sound
Post by: disco79stu on July 02, 2019, 11:08:44 am
The sound is permanent and starts a soon as I call for anything (deboarding in my case). No fuel truck present. I had the feeling the sound comes from the luggage vehicles but as I said, I renamed all wav files in the sound folder that sounded like a engine. Still this particular engine sound persists.
Is it maybe hardcoded into the system?? 
Title: Re: Loud truck engine sound
Post by: a2h on July 02, 2019, 12:32:57 pm
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... Is it maybe hardcoded into the system??

What I remember from older posts, some gsx vehicles may be based on entities which the sim treats as  A.I. air traffic. Therefore the sound comes from the sims base sound folder (stock simobjects). I would not recommend, but if this still applies, you would have to rename/mute all those stock simobjects sound files.

Personally I can live with that and maybe the team has some idea what could be done about that.

My suggestion is to lower the volume in the GSX menu (press and hold ALT) and select gsx in the addon category until a fix or update is available.
Title: Re: Loud truck engine sound
Post by: disco79stu on July 02, 2019, 01:32:33 pm
Lowering the GSX volume will of course also lower the ground crew sounds, which I want to keep.
If some of the trucks are actually using default AI sounds as you said, maybe I can look there and find the old diesel sound to mute it.

Title: Re: Loud truck engine sound
Post by: a2h on July 02, 2019, 01:49:57 pm
I found this old solution. I might give it a try later: http://www.fsdreamteam.com/forum/index.php/topic,9643.0.html (http://www.fsdreamteam.com/forum/index.php/topic,9643.0.html)
Title: Re: Loud truck engine sound
Post by: disco79stu on July 02, 2019, 02:29:26 pm
Interesting, I‘ll try that later too.

Thanks
Title: Re: Loud truck engine sound
Post by: disco79stu on July 02, 2019, 09:42:53 pm
So, there HAS to be something wrong here, because I can hear the sound even with the GSX volume slider all the way down!

The sound starts (as mentioned before) only when I call for a service and i really loud.

Anyone has any idea what that could be?
Title: Re: Loud truck engine sound
Post by: disco79stu on July 02, 2019, 10:18:48 pm
And yes, it sounds like a piston engine plane. When I pan around it sometimes get higher in pitch (the more above I get, the higher rpm it sounds).
I can't figure out where it's coming from exactly and it definitely sounds like a small plane.

I checked every sound file in the sound folder but I can't find it.

Please help!


Title: Re: Loud truck engine sound
Post by: disco79stu on July 02, 2019, 10:35:34 pm
Sorry for flooding this topic, but I just realized the sound seizes after deboarding is done. So it seems to be the baggage trucks that are causing this.

All other service vehicles (catering, pushback, belts) seem to have a "normal" engine sound that respond to the volume setting.

A soon as I call for boarding again, the piston sound starts again (and will not respond to the volume setting in the gsx settings)

EDIT: I narrowed it down to the ...\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4\Sound folder. When I remove this folder temporarily, the strange loud piston-engine sound doesn't play when I call for deboadring, while all other GSX-sound work perfectly.

Title: Re: Loud truck engine sound
Post by: a2h on July 03, 2019, 01:45:28 am
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EDIT: I narrowed it down to the ...\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v4\Sound folder. When I remove this folder temporarily, the strange loud piston-engine sound doesn't play when I call for deboadring, while all other GSX-sound work perfectly.

Thanks for sharing! Why do you say sorry? This is for the greater good, as me and most certainly others will benefit from this  :)

You found the poodles core, It has to be those files here: https://imgur.com/a/YRNG1Wn (https://imgur.com/a/YRNG1Wn)

More intresting would be, what addon or software is causing our GSX & sims to behave like that? I doubt that more than 50% of the users have this issue, or do they?
Title: Re: Loud truck engine sound
Post by: okupton on July 03, 2019, 04:11:13 am
I’ve got this issue too. Was thinking about it in my last flight while doing preflight. Sounded like a truck stop in the cockpit.


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Title: Re: Loud truck engine sound
Post by: jonathan_f on July 03, 2019, 07:33:44 am
I also have the same issue, where I hear the piston sound from the vehicles.
Title: Re: Loud truck engine sound
Post by: disco79stu on July 03, 2019, 07:56:30 am
You found the poodles core, It has to be those files here: https://imgur.com/a/YRNG1Wn (https://imgur.com/a/YRNG1Wn)

I didn't try renaming those files yet, but I am not quite sure that they are the ones used by GSX. I also suspected them by name but they sound a little different... But I'll try later.

Anyway, in my case I can state that

a) GSX for some reason (either by design or by accident) uses a small plane piston enginge sound for the baggage trucks. When the baggage trucks leave, everything is ok.

b) this sound is unaffected by the volume setting in the GSX menu

c) this sound file sits somewhere in the P3D \sound folder

I wasn't able to figure out how to set a different sound for the baggage trucks.
Anyway, I'll try to identify the exact sound file later and deactivate it.

But maybe one of the devs wanna chime in here....?



Title: Re: Loud truck engine sound
Post by: thomasfa on July 03, 2019, 06:16:49 pm
I have just received the update from the last update and the engine sound is now eliminated.
Many thanks

Thomas
Title: Re: [Resolved] Loud truck engine sound
Post by: disco79stu on July 03, 2019, 07:45:10 pm
I can confirm, the piston engine sound is gone after re-running the live update.
It downloaded some apparently missing sound files for the BaggageTractor.

Case closed, thanks :)
Title: Re: [Resolved] Loud truck engine sound
Post by: okupton on July 03, 2019, 07:45:48 pm
Great news.


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Title: Re: [Resolved] Loud truck engine sound
Post by: disco79stu on July 03, 2019, 08:54:33 pm
Sigh, I have to revoke that.... unfortunately I still get the "piston sound", not while (de)boarding, now it's there when I call for fuel.

gee, this is really a mess, I'm getting a little bit frustrated here.....
Title: Loud truck engine sound
Post by: disco79stu on July 03, 2019, 08:57:19 pm
I tried different setups (and even recorded it) and it's strange.

I muted all GSX sounds in the settings.

Fresh situation, FSL A320X, cold& dark. When I call for fuel, the piston sound starts immediately (external view).

Reset GSX position.

Call for deboarding, everything is quet.

Reset GSX position.

Call for fuel, again the piston sound, but much lower in volume.

....?

I'm out of Ideas here.
Title: Re: Loud truck engine sound
Post by: disco79stu on July 03, 2019, 09:30:50 pm
I made a video, hope it makes the issue clear (be sure to turn up the volume):

https://vimeo.com/345983743

remember: all GSX sounds are set to minimum (muted) in the settings.

Title: Re: Loud truck engine sound
Post by: disco79stu on July 03, 2019, 09:47:34 pm
OK, I THINK I FIXED IT:

I realized that within the folder "FSDT_FuelTrailer_TZA45FM" (which seemed to be the fuel truck that was sent in my case) a folder "soundai" was missing. All other vehicles seem to have that folder. The folders are located here: ...\Addon Manager\Simobjects\PBR

So I copied this folder from another fuel truck "FSDT_FuelTruck_7296" and it worked. The piston sound is gone.

I think the issue with the BaggageTractor yesterday had the same reason. The live update downloaded exactly this "soundai" folder for it to fix it. Seems when this is missing, the system takes a p3d default sound file instead... but I could be wrong.


Can the FSDT team confirm?
Title: Re: Loud truck engine sound
Post by: jonathan_f on July 04, 2019, 03:07:34 am
Umberto - care to chime in?
Title: Re: Loud truck engine sound
Post by: marknie on July 04, 2019, 04:11:44 am
OK, I THINK I FIXED IT:

I realized that within the folder "FSDT_FuelTrailer_TZA45FM" (which seemed to be the fuel truck that was sent in my case) a folder "soundai" was missing. All other vehicles seem to have that folder. The folders are located here: ...\Addon Manager\Simobjects\PBR

So I copied this folder from another fuel truck "FSDT_FuelTruck_7296" and it worked. The piston sound is gone.

I think the issue with the BaggageTractor yesterday had the same reason. The live update downloaded exactly this "soundai" folder for it to fix it. Seems when this is missing, the system takes a p3d default sound file instead... but I could be wrong.


Can the FSDT team confirm?


Didnt fix it for me.
Title: Re: Loud truck engine sound
Post by: disco79stu on July 04, 2019, 09:57:27 pm
Yea well.... I thought I fixed it, but no. I still get the cessna sound on multiple occasions, on fuel trucks, pax busses....

I really hope the fix this soon!
Title: Re: Loud truck engine sound
Post by: f.skywalker on July 04, 2019, 10:45:13 pm
Go to the Folder Lockheed Martin Sound

rename ai_singleprop.01.wav to.off
rename xai_singleprop.o1.wav to.off




Hi,

I want to get rid of the very loud truck engine sound when I'm on external view, but I can't find the file that is responsible.
I already renamed (muted) all engine and idle sounds, plus the annoying beeping of the forklifts, but there is still a diesel-like truck idle sound left.

Unfortunately, since you can't set the volume for different types of sound individually, I have to get rid of the files completely.

Can anyone tell me where the file might be?

BG
Stu
Title: Re: Loud truck engine sound
Post by: blau99 on July 04, 2019, 11:53:29 pm
Go to the Folder Lockheed Martin Sound

rename ai_singleprop.01.wav to.off
rename xai_singleprop.o1.wav to.off


That works perfectly fine thanks
Title: Re: Loud truck engine sound
Post by: virtuali on July 05, 2019, 03:34:24 pm
Umberto - care to chime in?

The latest update, as you noticed, disabled the default sound for the baggage cart loaders, since some users might find it annoying, being an object that is created on the parking, and it might overlap with others.

We intentionally left it active in the Fuel Tanker, because it's a vehicle that comes from far away, so it would be wrong having a silent vehicle going in/out.
Title: Re: Loud truck engine sound
Post by: Wolf0 on July 05, 2019, 03:47:44 pm
Is there a chance to lower the volume of the sounds for something around 50% of the current?
I appreciate the immersion but the sound is indeed a little loud and doesn't respond to the control panel volume options.
And btw congratulations on this massive free update. Thank you for all your work.
Title: Re: Loud truck engine sound
Post by: virtuali on July 05, 2019, 03:53:30 pm
Is there a chance to lower the volume of the sounds for something around 50% of the current?

It's a default sound from the sim, I'm not comfortable with changing default sounds, or any other file of the sim, if not strictly necessary ( like when disabling the default jetway model )
Title: Re: Loud truck engine sound
Post by: Wolf0 on July 06, 2019, 08:00:08 am
Thank you for the reply Umberto.
I know this issue is low priority and there's tons of work ahead when Chicago goes live... but can you consider making custom sounds for these vehicles instead of using the sim default ai_prop sounds?
That way we could lower them without touching the sim base. Maybe someday latter down the road?
Title: Re: Loud truck engine sound
Post by: disco79stu on July 06, 2019, 09:35:30 am
I agree, I‘m quite confused why you would create sounds for only a part of the vehicles and use a plane prop sound for one truck. One one hand you seem to pay attention to many details (which I love) an on the other hand you are happy with putting a propeller plane sound on a large truck!?!? I can‘t quite understand the reason you gave, this just sounds  a little off to your otherwise high standards regarding quality and detail. Just my opinion. I‘d rather have a quieter, individual sound than this „cessna-truck“. Also, why did you feel this was necessary just for the fuel truck? All other larger trucks (catering, pax) also arrive from a distance and they don‘t have this sound....
Title: Re: Loud truck engine sound
Post by: virtuali on July 06, 2019, 11:11:20 am
but can you consider making custom sounds for these vehicles instead of using the sim default ai_prop sounds?

ALL vehicles has custom sounds, except for that one!
Title: Re: Loud truck engine sound
Post by: Driver170 on July 10, 2019, 11:24:38 am
I still get this propeller noise sound
Title: Re: Loud truck engine sound
Post by: virtuali on July 11, 2019, 12:33:17 am
That's what I meant  with "ALL vehicles has custom sounds, except for that one!"

Everything will be improved, eventually. Let's start with the most important thing first, shall we ?