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Products Support => Vancouver CYVR support FSX/P3D => Topic started by: jetsmell on October 16, 2013, 06:43:48 am
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I made a mistake by deleting the original post. Originaly I said that when I click on Shift + Control + F12 that nothing comes up. The Add On Manager and Couati are there. I have Windows 8, but everything, FSX and the add ons are Windows 7 compatable. FSX is installed in Programs ( X86 ) File. The UAC Slider is currently all the way down, so no administrator rights was given. The fsdt advisor had given me some advise that I can't remember for sure so I'll give it a try and please respond with a clear answer. You are advising me to give administrator rights to FSX and all the add ons ? Turn the UAC Slider back up? Change the compatable from Windows 7 Back to Windows 8 on everything?
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The Add On Manager and Couati are there?
That's ends every discussion about installation, antivirus, settings, etc. If you have both menus, that means everything's running normally.
The only possible explanation for GSX not coming up are:
1) You haven't installed GSX. If you haven't, you would see the Couatl menu, but no "GSX Settings" and other GSX menus under it.
OR
2) There's a key conflict, either with some other product, or between GSX itself, if you redefined the GSX default key in the past, before GSX had two hotkeys. You can check this in the "Key assignment" menu under the Couatl menu. Be sure the two GSX hotkeys are set differently. By default, they are CTRL+F12 for YouControl and CTRL+Shift+F12 for GSX direct.
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While in FSX, I have the Couati and Add on Manager. In Couati, I have the following options; GSX Settings, GSX Customize Aircraft and Customize Airports. In the Add on Manager, the options to register my key, etc. are not available to me.
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In Couati, I have the following options; GSX Settings, GSX Customize Aircraft and Customize Airports.
You should have other options too, restart Couatl and Key assignments. You should use the Key assignments menu to check for key conflicts.
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In the drop down, I went to control settings and got; You control>Control + F12
GSX > Shift + Control + F12
Park Me > Control + Shift + P ( discontinued ) I checked both FSX Key Functions and FUISPC 4 and there are no key conflicts.
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I checked both FSX Key Functions and FUISPC 4 and there are no key conflicts
Everything's fine in GSX key assignment. FSUIPC is not the only program that can use hotkeys. Check all your other running programs, and be sure no one is using one of the GSX hotkeys.
Does YouControl ( CTRL+F12 ) works ?
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You control doesn't work.
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You control doesn't work.
Do you have an FSDT scenery ? Does YouControl works there at least ?
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I click on You Control ( Control + F12 ) and get a pop up that says it's discontinued. I get nothing with Control + Shift + F12. In my files ; Program ( X86 )
Microsoft Games
FSX
FS Dreamteam
couati
cyvr ( bought it last night and it works ).
kjfk ( it works )
When I click on couati seen above I get this ; common
cyvr
gsx
jfk
Park me
wx
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Here is an attachment.
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I don't know if this means anything but when I go to my file I see this; Microsoft Games
FSX
GSX
Airports " No items match your search "
Assistance Services " " " " "
Parking " " " " "
RES " " " " "
Sounds ; baggage loader
catering
push back
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I click on You Control ( Control + F12 ) and get a pop up that says it's discontinued.
It's not possible you would see such message, because:
- That message comes only if you press the ParkMe hotkey, which is Ctrl+Shift+P
- You have the Disabled = 1 setting in the ParkMe folder
Please, post your Keymapping.ini file in the %APPDATA%\Virtuali folder.
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I stand corrected. When I click Control + Shift + P I get the pop up that says Park me is discontinued, no other keys work.
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You said I have the Disabled =1 setting in the Park Me Folder, is that good or bad ?
When you say post your Keymapping . ini file in the %APPDATA \Virtuali folder , what exactly does that mean ?
I'm not computer literate so you have to explain in a simple way that I will understand . Thank you for your patience.
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You said I have the Disabled =1 setting in the Park Me Folder, is that good or bad ?
It's good, of course. Since it has been discontinued by GSX, there's no need to load it anymore.
When you say post your Keymapping . ini file in the %APPDATA \Virtuali folder , what exactly does that mean ?
Exactly the same as when you posted your Couatladdons.ini. The Keymapping.ini is in the same folder.
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So where do I go , or what should I try to start the GSX ?
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So where do I go , or what should I try to start the GSX ?
As I've said, please, post your Keymapping.ini file in the %APPDATA%\Virtuali folder, to check if you have any key conflicts. You already posted your Couatladdons.ini in one of your previous messages, this one it's on the same folder.
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I found the Keymapping.ini , but can't open it with the several options that I used. Any suggestions ? It all looked like Chinese.
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Open it with Textedit.
Right click, select "Open With", and select textedit.
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It all looked like Chinese.
That's interesting. It might indicate the file is corrupted (unless your Windows language is *really* Chinese). Just remove it and re-install GSX.
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I've tried all day to find Keymapping .ini , and so far haven't been able to find it. I'll try again when I wake up. Any helpful ideas would be appreciated.
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Interesting flight tonight. I started up FSX at KJFK, got a few pop ups like; The Add On Manager and Couati are both not up to date. Got a web Page to update the Manager and it failed. So I took off from a perfectly normal KJFK , flew to La Guardia then came back to once was Kennedy Airport, like it was a demo. I didn't mess with the files today, just looked at them trying to find the Keymappings.ini. It doesn't look like I will find the cause. Should I just go ahead and re-install ?
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A follow up on tonight. The pop ups that read; The addon on JFK is out of date.Please download and install the latest stand alone Add On Manager.
The other two pop ups where the same, one for GSX and the other for CYVR. When I tried to download the updated Add On Manager I got This ; An error ocured while trying to replace the Down Load Manager CODE 5.
Once inside FSX I clicked on The Add On Manager. In there I clicked on GSX It said ; Active. When I clicked on both CYVR and JFK both said Installed and Active.
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When I tried to download the updated Add On Manager I got This ; An error ocured while trying to replace the Down Load Manager CODE 5.
That error indicates you tried to run the installer when FSX was still running.
- Restart Windows
- Download and install the current GSX FULL installer and install that one.
- If you get messages about sceneries outdated, download and install their installer too.
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In FSX there was no couati in drop down. I completly un-installed and re-installed GSX and the Addon Manager.The keys still don't respond. There's still no Couati and my paid versions of jfk and cyvr don't even show the terminals at start up. I am getting really frustrated over al;l this.
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In FSX there was no couati in drop down
This is what you said in one of your initial messages:
While in FSX, I have the Couati and Add on Manager
So, you have it then, but it disappeared now ? The most likely cause is your antivirus blocking it.
- Uninstall GSX. Reply YES when asked if you want to remove the Addon Manager and the Couatl Engine. Reply YES to both questions.
- TURN OFF your antivirus. Don't just exit from its interface, but turn off the real time protection. Actual wording changes between products, however, it's the option to scan every file that gets open in real time, without user intervention.
- Reinstall GSX with the Antivirus TURNED OFF. Don't launch FSX yet.
- Configure the antivirus to exclude the following files from scanning:
YourFSXFolder\bglmanx.dll
YourFSXFolder\fsdreamteam\Couatl\couatl.exe
YourFSXFolder it's usually C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X, if you installed it in the default folder.
- Now you can turn the antivirus back on, and launch FSX.
- Check you are seeing BOTH the "Addon Manager" menu AND the "Couatl powered products" menu under th
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I performed each step as you suggested. The add on manager is in the drop down , but not the couati. I still got those pop ups that say ; CYVR,JFK,etc. are out dated. When downloading GSX I was not asked to enter my key. Still no CYVR, JFK airports that I payed for.
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I went into the files and Couati and GSX are still there. I went into Couati and gave administration rights. Started FSX and Couati is now on the drop down again .The keys still don't work.
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Went flying tonight at JFK, no airport and no Couati again. ?????
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CYVR,JFK,etc. are out dated.
As I've said in my previous message, if you get messages about sceneries outdated, download and install their installer too.
When downloading GSX I was not asked to enter my key.
Since the installer is a Trial version, it doesn't obviously ask for a Serial Number, how you were supposed to test it, if you haven't purchased it yet ? The Serial Number is registered using the "Register Serial" function of the Addon Manager. If you registered it already, there's no need to do it again, if you haven't changed your hardware or reinstalled Windows. Of course, the program WILL tell you, if you need to register it again.
Still no CYVR, JFK airports that I payed for.
If you get outdated message and you keep ignoring them, they won't show.
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Went flying tonight at JFK, no airport and no Couati again. ?????
You haven't said what you did with your Keypammings.ini file. If it was really corrupted like you said it was ( you said it "looked like Chinese" ) you must REMOVE IT before reinstalling GSX. If that file is corrupted it will likely crash Couatl on start.
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The KeyMapping.ini reads as follows : [global] you control= Ctrl + F12
[GSX] shortcut = Shift +Ctrl + F12
[Park Me]parking control = Ctrl + Shift +P
Couati.ini > logfile = ""
In My Files, it seems that I have everything . I see GSX, Couati JFK and CYVR that I paid for.
At this time in FSX the Add On Manager is there but not Couati in the drop down. In FSX there are no terminals in JFK and CYVR right from the start.
I think there is a set up in My Computer that is causing this problem. I now have Windows 8.1 The FSX and the add ons are all on my ( C ) Drive in Program (X86 ) In Properties of everything related , it's set to Windows 7.My UAC slider is all the way down.
This set up came about as a result of me enrolling in a Virtual Flying Club. I couldn't download FS Inn and FS Copilot. The founder and developer of the club along with the co-founder who worked for IBM took over my computer and made the adjustments to where I am right now.
Do I completely un-install everything , then re-install ? I noticed when I installed the second time everything Dreamteam after I did a system recovery, I was not asked for a key to register. Did that make a difference ?
If you don't want me to do a re-install at this time, what's the next move ?
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At this time in FSX the Add On Manager is there but not Couati in the drop down. In FSX there are no terminals in JFK and CYVR right from the start.
Have you been ASKED permission to run the Couatl module when you reinstalled GSX after following the previous uninstall/reinstall procedure I've indicated in one of my previous message ?
If no, you might have skipped this step:
- Uninstall GSX. Reply YES when asked if you want to remove the Addon Manager and the Couatl Engine. Reply YES to both questions.
If not sure, do it again (the whole procedure, don't skip any step), and pay attention if you are asked permission to run the Couatl module the first time you start FSX after you uninistall/reinstall.
If you are SURE (really sure) you DID this step:
Reply YES when asked if you want to remove the Addon Manager and the Couatl Engine. Reply YES to both questions.
But you haven't been asked permission to run Couatl.exe (but you HAVE been asked permission to run the Addon Manager), then you still have something like antivirus or similar blocking it.
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I turned my firewall and virus off. Turned the UAC up. Re-installed GSX/Couati , opened FSX in the dropdown Add on Manager was there , no Couati. Went to the Manager, clicked on GSX, it wanted my serial ( this is the first time since I started posting ). I gave My Serial # it said it may take 15 minutes, then it said it was the wrong serial #. I sent an e-mail in to retrieve my serial no. , but I'm pretty sure I gave the right one. So waiting for that. Still no jfk or cyvr terminals.
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I turned my firewall and virus off. Turned the UAC up. Re-installed GSX/Couati , opened FSX in the dropdown Add on Manager was there , no Couati.
As I've asked in my previous message:
Have you been ASKED permission to run the Couatl module when you reinstalled GSX after following the previous uninstall/reinstall procedure I've indicated in one of my previous message ?
If no, you might have skipped this step:
- Uninstall GSX. Reply YES when asked if you want to remove the Addon Manager and the Couatl Engine. Reply YES to both questions.
If not sure, do it again (the whole procedure, don't skip any step), and pay attention if you are asked permission to run the Couatl module the first time you start FSX after you uninistall/reinstall.
So, please, reply to my question:
- Have you been ASKED permission to run the Addon Manager after the whole uninstall/reinstall ? Yes or no ?
- Have you been ASKED permission to run the Couatl modul after the whole uninstall/reinstall ? Yes or no ?
I gave My Serial # it said it may take 15 minutes, then it said it was the wrong serial #
That means you typed it wrong.
I sent an e-mail in to retrieve my serial no. , but I'm pretty sure I gave the right one.
No, you haven't. If it says it's wrong and wait 15 minutes, IT IS wrong, no question about it. Be sure you don't confuse the number "0" with the letter "O" and vice-versa. Don't insert extra characters. Be careful with copy & paste, because you might end up adding invisible characters that are making the Serial wrong, even if it "looks right". Type it, and type it precisely.
Still no jfk or cyvr terminals.
That's normal. As I've said many times already, unless BOTH the Addon Manger AND Couatl are running, you won't see any scenery. This regardless of the fact you inserted the Serial right or wrong. It's entirely irrelevant. If the scenery is not Active because you inserted the Serial wrong, it won't disappear, it will work in Trial mode for 5 minutes at time.
Your problem is NOT the activation, and doesn't have anything to do with it. Your problem is ONLY that something in your system is blocking Couatl from starting.
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Firewall > off
AVG > off
Downloaded GSX and Add On Manager after complete un-install.
Opened FSX > asked for permission from 2 pop up's on right of screen, 2 smaller pop ups in middle of screen. First pop up was from your company, second was from either GSX or Couati.
Pop up > Add On Manager is out of date > Went to your web Page automatically , downloaded Manager. > Permission to install > yes
Area Code 5 > aborted that.
Went to window mode > Drop down > Add On Manager was there, NO Couati.
Opened Manager > said GSX was active > No option for serial number to be entered.
While waitng for you responce on this , I've been trying to make my two airports work, so far no luck. The manager is not giving me an option for entering my serial number.
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second was from either GSX or Couati.
It can't be "either" GSX or Coautl. It must be TWO pop ups, one for EACH ONE.
I'll ask it again:
- Have you been ASKED permission to run the Addon Manager after the whole uninstall/reinstall ? Yes or no ?
- Have you been ASKED permission to run the Couatl modul after the whole uninstall/reinstall ? Yes or no ?
Pop up > Add On Manager is out of date
That pop-up doesn't say just that.
It says there was an error, and you might need to update the Addon Manager but it also said that you should check WHAT error you got in your Couatl.ERR file, pointing to a folder in your system where you can find the Couatl.ERR file.
Please, post the content of your Couatl.ERR file.
Area Code 5 > aborted that.
The error 5 means that you ran the installer when FSX was still running or you ran it too quickly after it was still closing, not giving it enough time to close all files.
Restarting Windows will fix this.
Do the WHOLE procedure of Uninstall/Reinstall, don't skip ANY step, and pay attention if you ARE being asked permission to run BOTH modules.
Opened Manager > said GSX was active > No option for serial number to be entered.
Why are you continue to be fixated with the Serial Number and activation, when I've CLEARLY said your problem doesn't have ANYTHING to do with it ?
Your problem is NOT the activation. Your problem is ONLY that something in your system is blocking Couatl from starting. Just stop being concerned with activation and Serial Number, your activation is fine and if it wasn't (as I've said already), the scenery won't disappear, it will work in Trial mode for 5 minutes at time.
Your problem is that Couatl hasn't started.
Again, please post your Couatl.err file, the message pop-up said you should check it for a reason. That might explain why the program isn't running.
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Downloaded GSX
Turned off firewall / AVG
Checked properties > Windows 7
Permissions > System
* ( POP UP ) Do you want to allow the following program to make changes to this computer ? ( GSX_FSX_setup ) > YES
GSX installed
Opened FSX
* Do you want to install this software Couati Scripting Engine for FSX ? > RUN
*Would you like to designate this module ...\Couati.exe as trusted software ? YES
*Do you want to run this software Addon Manager for FSX ? RUN
*Would you like to designate ...\bglmanx.dll as trusted software ? YES
Started FSX > Cessna 172 ( default ) chosen > OK
Clicked change current location
*The addon CYVR is outdated > OK
*The addon GSX is outdated > OK
* FSDT Web page appears > Addon Manager ( FSX Version ) > clicked
*Opening setup > Addon ManagerX .exe > SAVE FILE
Went to tools > Downloads > Opened containing folder
Checked Properties > Compatability > Windows 7 > Security > System > OK
*Do you want to allow the following program ....\Setup _ AddonmanagerX > YES
* Addon Manager 2.9.0.8 > NEXT
Install
Error FSX\FSDreamteam\Couati\Alut.dll Code 5 > Retried twice > Aborted > Rollback
Opened FSX > Airport > KJFK
Window mode > Addons > Addon Manager , no Couati GSX showed Product > ACTIVE
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After the above I checked my files and this is what it shows :
FSDreamteam
Couati
Common
ephem
meter
res
GSX
airports
assistance services
parking services
res
Sounds
baggage_loader
catering
push back
WX
lib
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Error FSX\FSDreamteam\Couati\Alut.dll Code 5 > Retried twice > Aborted > Rollback
Why you keep doing things differently than I've asked and/or not reading my emails entirely ?
In my previous reply, I've clearly indicated both the reason of this error:
The error 5 means that you ran the installer when FSX was still running or you ran it too quickly after it was still closing, not giving it enough time to close all files.
AND the way to fix it:
Restarting Windows will fix this.
*The addon CYVR is outdated > OK
Since the message said that CYVR is outdated, why you don't download the current CYVR installer, like the message is suggesting ?
*The addon GSX is outdated > OK
This is a DIFFERENT message, and is saying there's a major update that requires to install the Stand-Alone Addon Manager. See above reply about the error 5 and what your mistake was (you ran the installer with FSX still running)
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I'm having major issues now for some reason. No sound, You Tube Video not working and FSX won't start. So it looks like I'm going to have my hands full for now.
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"As I've said to you, several times already by now, if you are keep having the SAME problem, keep posting in the SAME thread. Opening new identical threads won't improve your chance to get replied to. In fact, it will obtain exactly the opposite effect: if we DELAY response time, because of the increase of workload you cause by posting twice, which demands replying twice (if only to say you shouldn't post twice) in order not to leave unanswered posts.
So, as I've already said to you, several times by now, continue posting in the SAME thread you opened earlier on. This one is now locked."
It works now, thanks to cmpbllsjc. Where were you when I needed you. If "Virtu..." would have told me this a long time ago then his time and my time wouldn't have been wasted, instead of complaining all the time, thanks again cmpbllsjc, you're the best!
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It works now, thanks to cmpbllsjc. Where were you when I needed you.
If you are referring to the now locked message, the reply cmpbllsjc gave you about having to check your Key mappings menu under the Couatl menu, this was of course the first thing I've told you to check, in my FIRST reply to this thread:
http://www.fsdreamteam.com/forum/index.php/topic,9277.msg73912.html#msg73912
You can check this in the "Key assignment" menu under the Couatl menu.
If "Virtu..." would have told me this a long time ago then his time and my time wouldn't have been wasted, instead of complaining all the time, thanks again cmpbllsjc, you're the best!
You got it backwards: it's YOU that wasted everybody's time, in a 3 pages long thread, because you didn't notice that my correct advice was already on my FIRST reply!
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I had no idea I could change the keys until the other poster explained it in a simple, easy way. Your attitude is your weakness even though you may know a lot about the product, you're going to have to understand where people like me are coming from. If it wasn't for people like me, you would have no customers, as a result , no money. If you think that can't happen, think again. Bad news travels fast.
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I had no idea I could change the keys until the other poster explained it in a simple, easy way
Wrong, again. This is what YOU wrote in another message AFTER I told you to check your key assignments:
http://www.fsdreamteam.com/forum/index.php/topic,9277.msg73930.html#msg73930
In the drop down, I went to control settings and got;
You control>Control + F12
GSX > Shift + Control + F12
Park Me > Control + Shift + P ( discontinued )
Which clearly shows you already opened that very same menu you are now referring with "I had no idea I could change the keys until the other poster explained it in a simple, easy way"
Can't you just accept the fact that you might have done some kind of error, instead of complaining about the supposed lack of a proper explanation, which was of course already there in my first reply ?
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I know I opened the drop down, but was not aware at the time I could change the keys.
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I know I opened the drop down, but was not aware at the time I could change the keys.
What's unclear in that dialog box ?
(http://www.virtualisoftware.com/binaries/images/keymappings.jpg)
And of course, the GSX manual basically starts with explaining you can change the keys used by GSX. From Page 5, the "How it works" chapter:
You normally call GSX after landing the airplane on any airport, by pressing its Hot key. By default, the Hot key assigned to GSX is CTRL+F12, but it can be reassigned using the “Couatl Powered products” menu inside FSX
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This realy sucks,
It seems I have an identical situation. It has always worked, but I think it went wrong after a last upgrade.
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It seems I have an identical situation. It has always worked, but I think it went wrong after a last upgrade.
You don't have an "identical" situation.
The problem discussed in this thread was FIXED by the user, because he had a key conflict with *ANOTHER* product, but he didn't realized that he could reassign keys in GSX.
Please don't post here, post only in the relevant thread about your problem.