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Developer's Backdoor => Los Angeles LAX Backdoor => Topic started by: Kappa on June 13, 2011, 11:20:44 pm
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Wow!!!
Nice, Kappa...
Thanks for sharing... updates are progressing quickly at the moment ;)
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Wow!!!
Nice, Kappa...
Thanks for sharing... updates are progressing quickly at the moment ;)
the maze it's coming together. ;)
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EPIC
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Since I'm obviously not from L.A - I've only been at LAX once, perhaps someone could explain something here...
Was looking at the pictures... what is the large building in the background... the one with the 'zig-zagged' roof on top... (<-- don't know how else to explain it)... Clearly visible in the upper-left part of picture #1...
Is it part of a terminal? Bradly-terminal?
Again, thanks for sharing, Kappa! It's looks like, it's getting close to completion... Are there any news regarding FS9 version? Or has that yet to be decided?
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What are the blue and red arrows for?
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What are the blue and red arrows for?
Interesting question...
Just looked at Google Earth... I assume it could be something regarding taxi-directions... "one-way" signs? hehe!
Maybe someone can explain... ;)
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looks great!
will the jetways be able to move?
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Is it part of a terminal? Bradly-terminal?
I believe what you are referring to is the TB terminal that is being largely renovated and redone.
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will the jetways be able to move ?
Of course, none of our FSX sceneries ever had static jetways!
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This is looking very good. You never fail to impress!!! ;D
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Really continuing to look great! Looks like it is very near complete (also because more pictures in fsx are being put up - meaning you guys might be in beta at this point). A question though; Will the double jetways/mini half jetways (like in picture 6) move as well as the normal ones?
Also, @ Thanasi, I believe the lights are like that because it is nearing twilight hours/in the late afternoon. So the airport is preparing for night ops.
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Shalom and greetings all my pals! ;D
Looks great!
With regards to the arrows;
"The one time I've flown into LAX I had a few hours to kill before my connecting flight, and I got a chance to sit in one of the restaurants looking out on the C-6 alley and listen to ramp control. In the following aerial photo you can see that the C-6 alley is actually split into two parallel center lines, one orange and one blue, ending with the large painted arrows at the hold short line to taxiway Charlie.
Every UAL/SKW flight in that alley would call ramp control on 129.5 to request push back and engine start. After the push back, the ramp controller would actually instruct the airplanes to taxi from their positions in the alley, up either the "orange line" or the "blue line" to one of the arrows holding short of taxiway charlie and then contact ground for taxi from there. Similarly, inbound arrivals would call ramp on their second radio prior to being outside the alley and get both their assigned gate and instructions to get there. For instance, I recall instructions going something like this: "Skywest 100 follow the orange line in to gate 80, use caution for the outbound 737 on the blue line.""
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Hi Kappa,
Really great looking scenery. I just wanted to point something out. The first image [fsdt 03 (circle).jpg] I have is part of the 03 image in the preview. I circled in red the gate. The second picture (Real Life LAX.jpg) is a picture from Google Maps. I circle the same gate. I realized that the attachment point of the beginning of the gate to the terminal building is different in real life than the scenery. The real gate is not curved as much as the attachment point is on the flat, windowless surface, whereas in the simulation, you attached it to the wrong part of the building. That minor error is the only thing I've seen. Other than that, I am more than excited about this beautiful scenery and I'm checking daily to see when it will come out. Keep up the good work!!
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Very nice its really coming together quite nicely
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This is really comming together nicely.
If backdoor history repeats itself, maybe one or two more backdoor previews and we will be in action. At least we will be close once the white a/c start to appear.
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Keep it coming along.......KLAX is looking all so nice with each WIP :o :)
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This is looking really good...love the textures :) Judging by how there are no buildings/ hangars on the south side of the airport I would say that we still have some time to see this airport progress even further! Can't wait for the final product, I'm sure it will be a winner!!
One question though, will the LAX Tower have that circular art-piece on its eastern side? I believe people have brought it up in the past. It lights up at night too!
Joel
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If you're talking about the dome shaped artwork that lights up, you can see it in the screenshots. ;)
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My guess is they're are really close to release, considering it takes them a day to export to FS, and unless the last two sets are on the the same build, they've done that twice in the past 5 days. Looks amazing! Can't wait! ;D
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Is close to release sometime this week? ;D I cant wait!
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There's still plenty of things left to do for KLAX, you'll have to wait a bit longer.
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Can we expect at least a release in july, Mr Umberto ?
Dom Mason
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If you're talking about the dome shaped artwork that lights up, you can see it in the screenshots. ;)
I'm not sure that I'm seeing that. It's a prominent piece that is on the eastern side of the tower. Its a somewhat round, circular piece that's white on the tower.
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Double jetways!!!! My favorite! will they work?
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Can we expect at least a release in july, Mr Umberto ?
Dom Mason
It sounds like August
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Can we expect at least a release in july, Mr Umberto ?
Very likely, although you never known. We are starting working on night textures now and, and trying new rendering method for the first time, that looks amazing.
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Awsome.. I'm simply Blown Away !! Great Work FSDT !! :) If Only could have Houston IAH like this sometime.. I'd gladly trade in my just ok Houston for a Houston IAH of this league !! BluePrint does just ok work.. This stuff blows me away & wondering why we can't have a Houston Like this someday.. I'd give to Have a Houston of this magnitude !!
Awsome Work guys.. I'm getting all your scenery anyway but especially KLAX when it comes out.. :)
Would you consider maybe thinking about doing a Houston of this Magnitude to possibly !! I love to have a Houston of this magnitude to replace my Blueprint one that doesn't do much but stand there & look kinda pretty with one that really explodes with greast detail & full of life with animated monorails & Jetways.. I think it deserves to be brought to life.. Houston has the E Terminal with mostly glass work that with your guys great detail like your showing us here with LAX, will Bring my favorite Houston to Life.. This LAX is amazing & the fact is its not even done yet & you say your working on night textures. I'm seriously getting spoiled on your guys scenery & your work on the these kinds of scenery is deffantly really wanting a Houston IAH just like this LAX is turning out too be so great & so amazing & spectacular !! Really looking forward to seeing the night time shots when you get done with them.. Sounds like there going to be just as amazing as the daytime shots...
I sure hope you will consider Houston IAH because I know you guys will make a wonderful Houston if you did choose to do it & it would be as amazing as this LAX scenery is turning out too be.. I'd deffantly trade in my BluePrint version in a heartbeat for IAH version by you guys that would be out of this world amazing just like LAX quality because this LAX is Awsome & its not even done yet. Which means its going to be even more totally execellent by time it is done..
I'm simply loving this stuff !!! Keep up the great work guys.. :)
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Since I'm obviously not from L.A - I've only been at LAX once, perhaps someone could explain something here...
Was looking at the pictures... what is the large building in the background... the one with the 'zig-zagged' roof on top... (<-- don't know how else to explain it)... Clearly visible in the upper-left part of picture #1...
Is it part of a terminal? Bradly-terminal?
Again, thanks for sharing, Kappa! It's looks like, it's getting close to completion... Are there any news regarding FS9 version? Or has that yet to be decided?
Yup, the new Bradley Terminal..... this scenery will be super..... (fingers crossed)
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July?? August?? That's the middle of Summer, what happened to our Spring release? ???
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July?? August?? That's the middle of Summer, what happened to our Spring release? ???
Gone with the way of the 'Dodo-bird'... :D
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July?? August?? That's the middle of Summer, what happened to our Spring release? ???
I haven't said anything about August, it's most likely July, just not sure exactly when, but we'll try to make it as early as possible.
However, for KLAX, we'll probably release the FSX version first, the FS9 version can't be ported directly, so we need more time for it. Since it's likely our last scenery for FS9 so, it's better be good...
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July?? August?? That's the middle of Summer, what happened to our Spring release? ???
Well no"Spring Forward" for KLAX :D It'll have to equal to the "Sum" ;)
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July?? August?? That's the middle of Summer, what happened to our Spring release? ???
You haven't learned by now that release dates are never firm? They can always change, even at the last second. The only time you can have a firm release date is when the product has actually been released - ie. only in the past.
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July?? August?? That's the middle of Summer, what happened to our Spring release? ???
I haven't said anything about August, it's most likely July, just not sure exactly when, but we'll try to make it as early as possible.
However, for KLAX, we'll probably release the FSX version first, the FS9 version can't be ported directly, so we need more time for it. Since it's likely our last scenery for FS9 so, it's better be good...
Sounds interesting...
I'm glad, that the FS2004 version is going to see the light of day... On the other hand, I'm sad to hear, that you're discontinuing development for FS2004...
Looking forward to the release... ;)
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July?? August?? That's the middle of Summer, what happened to our Spring release? ???
I haven't said anything about August, it's most likely July, just not sure exactly when, but we'll try to make it as early as possible.
However, for KLAX, we'll probably release the FSX version first, the FS9 version can't be ported directly, so we need more time for it. Since it's likely our last scenery for FS9 so, it's better be good...
Well all good things must come to an end.........
I guess this will be the last Item of scenery I will be buying from you guys then as there is no room in my life or on my computer for FSX......shame :(
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After LAX I'd like to see a smaller airport done like KBDL (Springfield, Connecticut), KLIT (Little Rock, Arkansas) or even like a KSTL (St. Louis, Missouri).
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Well all good things must come to an end.........
I guess this will be the last Item of scenery I will be buying from you guys then as there is no room in my life or on my computer for FSX......shame :(
In all honesty, with Flight comming out in the next year or two, I wouldn't expect FSDT to try to support 3 different versions of MSFS. At some point, 3PD's are going to have to drop FS9 developement as some already have, just as there will probably be a time in the future when they are going to have to drop FSX developement as well.
If I was an FS9 user I wouldn't be to worried about it though since there are so many addons available for it to keep most FS9 users happy for a few more years.
FS9 was released on July 29th '03 and will be 8 years old next month. That's a pretty long run for a computer sim/game as most PC titles are usually discarded by their users rather quickly. I dont think anyone could honestly expect developers to keep working on FS9 titles for another 2 or 3 years.
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July?? August?? That's the middle of Summer, what happened to our Spring release? ???
I haven't said anything about August, it's most likely July, just not sure exactly when, but we'll try to make it as early as possible.
However, for KLAX, we'll probably release the FSX version first, the FS9 version can't be ported directly, so we need more time for it. Since it's likely our last scenery for FS9 so, it's better be good...
Yes Finally time to move on.. Yes FS9 Simmers.. Its time to move up & move on guys.. Yes FS9 was good in its time but now's the time to eventually move up & move on.. Those FS9 simmers out there I know its hard to break away but I'm telling you once you move up, you won't ever want to go back to FS9.. I said the same thing at first until I seen FSX in person with one of my friends & then played it myself.. You won't want to go back.. FSX is better & there's more scenery & Airplanes for it now.. Its time for Umberto & FSDT to move away from FS9 & concentrate making the best scenery for FSX
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July?? August?? That's the middle of Summer, what happened to our Spring release? ???
I haven't said anything about August, it's most likely July, just not sure exactly when, but we'll try to make it as early as possible.
However, for KLAX, we'll probably release the FSX version first, the FS9 version can't be ported directly, so we need more time for it. Since it's likely our last scenery for FS9 so, it's better be good...
Yes Finally time to move on.. Yes FS9 Simmers..
Yes, time to move on...to MS Flight.
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Well all good things must come to an end.........
I guess this will be the last Item of scenery I will be buying from you guys then as there is no room in my life or on my computer for FSX......shame :(
In all honesty, with Flight comming out in the next year or two, I wouldn't expect FSDT to try to support 3 different versions of MSFS. At some point, 3PD's are going to have to drop FS9 developement as some already have, just as there will probably be a time in the future when they are going to have to drop FSX developement as well.
If I was an FS9 user I wouldn't be to worried about it though since there are so many addons available for it to keep most FS9 users happy for a few more years.
FS9 was released on July 29th '03 and will be 8 years old next month. That's a pretty long run for a computer sim/game as most PC titles are usually discarded by their users rather quickly. I don't think anyone could honestly expect developers to keep working on FS9 titles for another 2 or 3 years.
I agree, it would be suicide trying to manage /develop software addons for three different platforms. It's unfortunate, but nonetheless we must move onward and upward. Ironically; however, it has taken 8 years for us to see the best that FS9 has to offer by way of technology advances in both CPU's and modeling techniques. Considering all that is available to the fs9 community (i.e. FSGlobal, FsGensis, UT, GE, REX, and gamut of spectacular scenery addons and an array of utilities etc , etc,) they have made a prodigious financial contribution/investment. Perhaps, the hesitation is that with MS Flight lingering with such great anticipation and expectation the "millennium fighters"; a.k.a FS9ers, cannot foresee a congruent commitment to FSX. I myself have both platforms but favour FS9 because of the level of comprehesive addons i've acquired to make it insanely rich. Not to knock FSX, I've seen some truly impressive, vids, and magnificent screenshots that make me "pee my pants" :). However, today (general) I can run fs9 with all sliders maxed but as with many of us, it came at a great expense through trial and error.
In closing, I have an intuitively expectation that the MS Flight will revolutionize both FS9 and FSX...so in the interim I wait and hold at fs9....periodically dipping into FSX. No matter; come what may, I truly appreciate and commend FSDT for there commitment and ingenuity to our community and look forward to the future.
Colossal Thanks and Gratitude to you FSDT
Cheers
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You haven't learned by now that release dates are never firm? They can always change..
I know they aren't cast in stone, but the spring release time frame was given back last winter. They must've been pretty confident.
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You haven't learned by now that release dates are never firm? They can always change..
I know they aren't cast in stone, but the spring release time frame was given back last winter. They must've been pretty confident.
It's always good to set goals. Unfortunately, they aren't always met. ;)
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Well all good things must come to an end.........
I guess this will be the last Item of scenery I will be buying from you guys then as there is no room in my life or on my computer for FSX......shame :(
In all honesty, with Flight comming out in the next year or two, I wouldn't expect FSDT to try to support 3 different versions of MSFS. At some point, 3PD's are going to have to drop FS9 developement as some already have, just as there will probably be a time in the future when they are going to have to drop FSX developement as well.
If I was an FS9 user I wouldn't be to worried about it though since there are so many addons available for it to keep most FS9 users happy for a few more years.
FS9 was released on July 29th '03 and will be 8 years old next month. That's a pretty long run for a computer sim/game as most PC titles are usually discarded by their users rather quickly. I dont think anyone could honestly expect developers to keep working on FS9 titles for another 2 or 3 years.
I do agree with you in full. And I am looking forward to this version of LAX...but it is a shame that the end of their conection with fs9 is in sight. I know it will happen one day in the same way that I know I will one day die, and i'm not looking forward to that either. ::)
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it's likely our last scenery for FS9
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c255/VORJAB/icon_cry.gif) Very sad news to me, Umberto.
On the other hand for a long time I was afraid you would say it one day.
Anyway thank you very much for the FS9 version of KLAX.
And all the other outstanding airports of course.
FSDT is my number one MFS scenery developer as for the quality and performance.
I personally wish you had made more European scenery, but I am not complaining.
Anything you make is a 3D modelling, texturing and optimisation masterpiece of its own.
A pattern to follow by many...
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The time has come guys, time to move to FSX and although I'm still a FS9 user I must say those graphics are horrid even with REX + G.Environment + FSGlobal.... all what you want!! :-\
So it's time to change... Unfortunately the performance in FSX is poor but I prefer that instead of the horrid graphics. ::thumbs up:: for the end of an era. :D
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Even though Fs9 was great...FSX has redeemed itself now since computer's today are able to run it more smoothly. It really is a good platform, but it did have future performance capabilities in mind when released. I'm hoping the new Flight will not be like this, and that when released TODAYS computers can run it well. I hope that Flight will be reminiscent with what happened with Vista/ Windows 7. At first Vista had a lot of bugs, but those bugs were eventually fixed and it became a decent system...only problem was it was a demanding OS for performance. Now comes Window 7, its an improved Vista, with its greatest asset being that it is a less demanding OS. I am not saying that flight sim and operating systems are the same...but you get the idea. We will see what Flight brings.
As for the schedule with LAX, Spring has passed for sure but you know FSDT have ventured into new ground with design techniques for LAX...so this I'm sure has caused some delays (As well they are making sure we are getting a COMPLETE scenery :) This is kind of situation reminds me of the production of the Boeing's 787, in a less severe way: new ground broken, delays (but huge delays for the B-787), but the final product will be amazing!
Joel
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July?? August?? That's the middle of Summer, what happened to our Spring release? ???
I haven't said anything about August, it's most likely July, just not sure exactly when, but we'll try to make it as early as possible.
However, for KLAX, we'll probably release the FSX version first, the FS9 version can't be ported directly, so we need more time for it. Since it's likely our last scenery for FS9 so, it's better be good...
Yes Finally time to move on.. Yes FS9 Simmers.. Its time to move up & move on guys.. Yes FS9 was good in its time but now's the time to eventually move up & move on.. Those FS9 simmers out there I know its hard to break away but I'm telling you once you move up, you won't ever want to go back to FS9.. I said the same thing at first until I seen FSX in person with one of my friends & then played it myself.. You won't want to go back.. FSX is better & there's more scenery & Airplanes for it now.. Its time for Umberto & FSDT to move away from FS9 & concentrate making the best scenery for FSX
Just remember one thing, here. For some of us, it's not just a simulator, it's an investment. I've put too much money in to FS9 to just simply put it on the shelf and start with FSX. I'm not saying it isn't better than FS9, I just can't justify tossing it by the way side. If I had some disposable income, then I would switch in an instant, and I pray that most of my add-ons will be usable in MS Flight (probably not, I'm sure). But that is the way that a lot of us have to look at it. Just my 2 cents.
Chris
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The scenery looks great,cann't wait to get my hands on it.
As for stopping development of FS9 I think that FSTD might be in for a surprise.
The FS market is about to become very fragmented. You will have all the die hard FS9 users that either cann't aford to upgrade thier PC's or have spent way to much money on FS9 just to throw it away. You have the FSX users who have been able to afford to upgrade thier PC's and run the sim
smoothly. We also will soon have 2 new platforms joining the fray. 1 from Microsoft the other from Aerosoft.
I would assume that these new Sims will be designed to run on the latest Hardware so that means another PC upgrade for most of us which will be out of the question for alot of people.
I would assume that the people that can easily afford a PC upgrade will get one of the new Sims. Those that cann't will stay with FSX. Some FS9 usersthat can now upgrade thier PC's will go to either FSX or one of the new Sims.
So now we have FSX that will probable loose alot of users to the new Sims but will probably gain a few from FS9. The two new Sims will get thoose that
can afford the new PC's to be able to run the new sims. I think this will be about the same number that went to FSX when it came out.his leaves FS9 with
the number of users that will remain largley unchanged. With The number of FSX users being diluted by he new Sims I believe that FS9 will have a
larger share of the market than it does now, which means that FS9 uesers will become the largest group for after market products which companies will
not be able to ignore if they want to make money. Look at Aerosoft.They said they would not producean FS9 version of
thier FSX LFMN Nice scenery. Well they relized that they were wrong and now we have an FS9 version.
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Since it's likely our last scenery for FS9 so, it's better be good...
So, FSDT wiil lose a client. I will not buy FSX sceneries. Sadly...
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Well I guess LAX will be my last FSDT purchase.
Just remember one thing, here. For some of us, it's not just a simulator, it's an investment. I've put too much money in to FS9 to just simply put it on the shelf and start with FSX. I'm not saying it isn't better than FS9, I just can't justify tossing it by the way side. If I had some disposable income, then I would switch in an instant, and I pray that most of my add-ons will be usable in MS Flight (probably not, I'm sure). But that is the way that a lot of us have to look at it. Just my 2 cents.
Chris
That is why I haven't switched to FSX. I put a lot of money into FS9 (I am talking about add ons here) and I just feel that if I switch to FSX all the money I put into FS9 would be wasted. Ans with all the money I put into FS9, it runs great and can look just as good as FSX.
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Since it's likely our last scenery for FS9 so, it's better be good...
Will the other Hawaii airports you are working on be for FS9?
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Will the other Hawaii airports you are working on be for FS9?
Yes, of course. We were only referring to future projects that hasn't started yet.
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absolutely agree with you. Ihave all FSDT sceneries, but LAX will be last.
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Please, stay on topic. This thread is about KLAX Preview, not about your upgrade intentions. Next post about this, and the topic will be locked.
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Please, stay on topic. This thread is about KLAX Preview, not about your upgrade intentions. Next post about this, and the topic will be locked.
I hope I am not off topic. I just wanted to say thank you Umberto for making the extra hard effort of re-creating the scenery to FS9 since it can't be directly backported. If it is the last scenery for FS9 from FSDT than it sure will go out with one hell of a bang.
However, I hope FS9 sales exceed your expectations by so far that it would be worth the extra work to keep doing it for future products. ;D At least I can dream...
Cheers!! and thanks again :)
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Personally I am glad I moved to FSX was a both sim man for years but I believe it will be less work for FSDT and in a long run will give us more products being produced sooner.
Thanks FSDT. I feel if you do not have the money for the move up of a better graphic output system like FSX and FSDT is trying to take advantage of. Then you do not have it for Ms Flight either. Which all my products I hope will be FSDT and Quality aircraft the best work at a great price and fantastic support.
Thanks to the both of them I love FSX. Looking foward to both Klax & GSX without any hesitation of a great purchase!!! There products are number one. I just hope they will be able to produce for Ms Flight that Miscrosoft allows the addon development. Even if it is DLC only this company you can count on for the Quality products thanks again FSDT.
Frank Schneider
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Very nice, great job as like hall FSDreamTeam Scenery. I have the scenery from Cloud9; may I hope in some discout for the new scenery?
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Very nice, great job as like hall FSDreamTeam Scenery. I have the scenery from Cloud9; may I hope in some discout for the new scenery?
Im almost certainly sure, that there will be no discount for existing Cloud9 KLAX customers!
Umberto wrote in the poll, when they first announced KLAX as a scenery, that it would be developed from scratch, and that it would have nothing to do, with the existing KLAX scenery!
That being said... I'm more than happy to pay full price for it anyway... (if you're so keen on getting a discount, you can take advantage of the Zurich-discount... if you're one of the lucky owners of LSZH that is!)
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I have the scenery from Cloud9; may I hope in some discout for the new scenery?
Doubtfull. If you purchase Zurich, you'll be able to use the coupon from the promotions forum to save $10 on LAX, but I wouldn't expect a discount because you have the C9 version.
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I have the scenery from Cloud9; may I hope in some discout for the new scenery?
Doubtfull. If you purchase Zurich, you'll be able to use the coupon from the promotions forum to save $10 on LAX, but I wouldn't expect a discount because you have the C9 version.
I believe it was said that there will be no discount for KLAX if you bought KLAX by Cloud9. (This was said by Umberto after we all voted for the next scenery (and KLAX won) last summer)
EDIT: Musjo said it exactly two posts above