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vLSO Beta release
PhantomTweak:
--- Quote ---I used to take the Coupeville-Pt Townsend ferry for my commute and somedays there were 4-5 Grizzlys in the pattern and they are vury loud.
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To me, it's the sound of freedom! I'll listen to jets to fly over all day and night long. Doesn't bother me in the least :D
--- Quote ---Will see how the summer goes, and I may jump back into-the-seat after I find a real house.
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Just wait till winter. I'll wager you spend a tiny bit less time outside then :) Will give you plenty of time to work on you Hornet!
And welcome home. Your new job sounds like it was made just for you to come along and take. Glad you enjoy t so much. As they say, if you are doing what you love, you don't WORK a day in your life.
Have fun always!
Pat☺
Striker:
This is in case you might have missed the release of a new FSX NOLF complete rebuild in TX. The Author, Allen Laughmiller, released NALF Orange Grove on July 4th. KNOG is a FCLP support airfield for NAS Kingsville which provides primary jet training (and carrier qualification) for new Navy, Marine, and selected foreign pilots. It features a tower, fire station, POL facility, access roads, new terrain masks, and parking for 15 transient aircraft. The runway 13 ILS is active and has a published approach procedure as well the Tacan approaches. vLSO integration would really bring KNOG to life.
knog-nalf_orange_grove_v2_0.zip is located at http://library.avsim.net/search.php?SearchTerm=knog&CatID=root&Go=Search
Allen Laughmiller is the Author for both KNOG and the June 2015 release of his NAS Kingsville complete rebuild.
PhantomTweak:
A question about Carrier recoveries, if I may:
--- Quote ---That is why carrier approaches always require the 'nibble' to the right constantly to remain lined up (if lined up at the start) because the angle deck is moving always from left to right during the approach.
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Is this normally done with rudder alone, or is it done by holding a slight bank angle to try and match the motion, or just short, sharp right coordinated turns?
I use the rudder only method. Probably incorrect, is why I ask.
Thanks in advance for ANY answers that may be thrown my way...
Pat☺
SpazSinbad:
'tweaker of the fantoms' ;D I cannot say from direct experience - nor do I believe I have read such a concept in the HORNET NATOPS (about using rudders etc.). However I can speak from my old experience deck landing aboard HMAS Melbourne in an A4G Skyhawk some forty odd years ago now. AND for about more than a decade I have been researching (mostly online) about 'how to deck land' so that I can get up to speed on how 'carrier deck landings' are carried out today and into the future (with some truly astonishing technology as evidenced in the X-47B and F-35C over the last year or so).
Back to the question. The CVN angle deck is 9 degrees? offset from the ship fore and aft axis. As the CVN moves forward 'into the wind' (slightly offset however to cause the WOD Wind Over the Deck to go down the angle deck - not the axial) then the offset runway is constantly moving from left to right as the aircraft approaches down the angle deck centreline. In an A4G the pilot would 'nibble' to the right constantly to get back to the centreline. However the angle deck was only 5.5 degrees so less of an issue there.
As has been pointed out by 'Sludge' and others it is possible (and real Hornet pilots use this method) to put the HUD Velocity Vector on the 'crotch' of the deck of the CVN (where the angle deck forward edge joins the axial deck) [search forum for 'crotch' will likely find this method] so that part of this line up problem is taken care of. However.... by 'in close' the Hornet must be lined up fore and aft along the angle deck centreline and on the angle deck centreline (within limits known to the LSO). If the aircraft is not within acceptable parameters to arrest then it will be waved off by the LSO. To continue to arrest may cause damage to the aircraft and/or arrestor gear - if it is OFF the centreline by a margin and if it is pointing too far left or right NOT down the centreline. A combination of these two errors can be really catastrophic.
Late line up corrections are not tolerated usually but they do occur to give conniptions to those concerned about them (LSOs and AirBoss). Best to be on centreline, lined up fore and aft (no yaw - no rudder) and on glideslope with centre ball and at Optimum Angle of Attack - all the way. ;D I'll look for the 'crotch' now. Otherwise I have some real LSO comments about this method but not a full explanation - this comment is probably with the 'crotch' advice....
There are 9 search results on 'crotch' (without quote marks).
BTW this is not relevant to your HORNET question - however - new technology will be used by the SUPER HORNET and similarly (but slightly different) in the F-35C to make future carrier landings a lot easier so that ONLY line up is a problem. ::) Line up - being on centreline and lined up fore and aft - can never be fully resolved because of the movement of the carrier etc. Anyway this new tech in the Super Hornet is called MAGIC CARPET and has been tested for real on a carrier recently. The tech will be in Super Hornets in a few years. In the F-35C it is called 'delta flight path' and in both cases 'integrated direct lift control' is used. I think an explanation is on this forum. I guess search on 'carpet' will find it.
PhantomTweak:
--- Quote ---'tweaker of the fantoms'
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That's me! Aero-1A, and the AN/AWG-10A/B/C. I aint afraid of no HAWG!
Now you know why the Phantoms had the big Phat Phront Phuselage ;D ;D ;D
Thank you very much for the answer! NOW I understand why they looked a little bit off alignment in all the screen shots. I kinda thought these guys were better than that but hey, what do I know? And just FYI I always thought the "Crotch" what the spot just abaft the Island. Learn something new every day! The Phantom pilots I met didn't really use the term a lot, as they didn't "aim" for it during landing. Of course, they didn't talk "with" us enlisted, so much as AT us. I read Approach Magazine avidly, but of course that's written by Naval Aviators FOR Naval Aviators, so they use a lot of jargon.
--- Quote ---The CVN angle deck is 9 degrees?
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I believe the ones used for FSX are 8°. I think (rarely though).
--- Quote ---Best to be on centreline, lined up fore and aft (no yaw - no rudder) and on glideslope with centre ball and at Optimum Angle of Attack - all the way.
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Annnnnd now you know why I don't use vLSO yet. I got tired of being yelled at. I need a LOT more practice, and with just a couple hours a day, and trying to help Peter with his endeavours...
Well, I do what I can!
Anyway, thanks again, you answered my question completely! I appreciate the quick response. And thank you for your Service, Sir. Our shop worked A-4 Radars (VMFAT-102), and the VTAS system as well as the F-4 radar (VMFAT-101). I first met my wife when she was down the nose of an A-4 decocooning it for Static Display in front of Yuma's main gate. I drove by on a tug about 10 times that day. I thought (still do :D ) she had a cute tushie. It wasn't until we were nearly married 10 years later she told me that that was her! I had gotten out and was working for VMFAT-401 at the time.
Pat☺
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