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SUBS17:
Cool Movie.

Sludge:
Micro...

Thanks for the input, always good to get the real world dope on things.

Mike...

You mean this video? Yeah, I'll probly get it at some point but in the meantime, if you wanna check it out, the dogfighting and carrier quals are the best watch. Was it me, or did the Tomcat seem to LOVE doing Split-S maneuvers? I can see it if its from an energy management standpoint... gotta use gravity to help the lift vector.



Also, look at part 5, about 1:00 and look at the stick movement, very little north/south its mostly east/west. So now we can see why Micro was skeptical.



Enjoy.

Later
Sludge

SUBS17:
So when the FCS is in PA mode I take it the stick input must be dumbed down to make small corrections the F-16 has a similar mode for inflight refuelling in its FCS. BTW wouldn't East/West/North/South movement be dependent on what the aircraft is actually doing rather than some sort of oscillation(like what you do when in a departure in F-16 with MO switch on you use that pattern for a reason as you have absolutely no control where as the above video represents a pilot in control making micro adjustments for his approach).

Sludge:
SUBS...


--- Quote ---So when the FCS is in PA mode I take it the stick input must be dumbed down to make small corrections
--- End quote ---

From everything I've heard, thats not the case. I've asked that specific question to a real-world Hornet driver and his direct answer was "the Hornet doesnt change its response in any flight regime".


--- Quote ---BTW wouldn't East/West/North/South movement be dependent on what the aircraft is actually doing rather than some sort of oscillation(like what you do when in a departure in F-16 with MO switch on you use that pattern for a reason as you have absolutely no control where as the above video represents a pilot in control making micro adjustments for his approach).
--- End quote ---

Again, I dont think this is the case with the Hornet, either in PA or UA flight modes. After reading Spaz' posts, it seems highly unlikely that either Hornet FCS have that logic. The reason I put that Tomcat video in there is to compare/contrast it with the Super Hornet (statically unstable; according to that link's paper) and lots of movement vs. the Tomcat and legacy Hornet (statically stable; and trimmed) that require more working of the throttle instead of north/south stick movements. I mean, yes there are a few north/south movements in the Tomcat but very few in comparison to the Super video where it looked like the pilot was all over the place with the stick.

Later
Sludge

SUBS17:
I'll have to read the SH NATOPs again there is some interesting stuff there on the FCS I have since forgotten although mostly it was regarding trim was why I read it a while back.(while landing etc)

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