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SpazSinbad:
Thanks 'PT' & 'micro' - the wonders of an inertia reel. AND... another fing wot bugs me are peeps cutting the fingers off of their gloves. Perhaps modern day jet cockpits are cool and never burn, only - who knows? Why wear gloves if youse cut off the fingers. Jeepers. If'n your in the water and gloves are a problem them TAKE THEM OFF toot sweet. EasyPeasy. Otherwise wear your damn gloves. Sheesh. :-)
Just the other month a GROWLER had an ECS Environmental Control System failure at altitude making the instruments unreadable due severe cockpit icing. One crewmember was reported as having FROSTbite! Fingerless Freakin' Gloves I reckon. They recovered the aircraft and received medals which is all well and good but I worry 'bout dem fingerless gloves awearin'. https://www.defensenews.com/breaking-news/2018/02/23/flying-blind-and-freezing-navy-investigating-terrifying-ea-18g-growler-flight/ "...both pilot and EWO suffered serious injuries due to frostbite. The aircrew suffered from “severe blistering and burns on hands,” according to the Navy internal report...."
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"...Both the pilot and the electronic warfare officer suffered severe frostbite, including blisters and burns on their hands, according to an official report Defense News obtained. It's not clear if there were any other injuries...." http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/18762/freezing-navy-ea-18g-crew-in-ice-filled-cockpit-navigated-home-using-their-smart-watches
micro:
Spaz, I, too, am one of those guys who cut off the tips of my gloves - but only the tips of my thumbs and index fingers. With all the buttons and knobs in the cockpit, the nomex fingertips were just too bulky. You'd end up mashing things or not being able to grab small items. And yes, I did wonder if I would regret doing so if things got hot at some point.
PhantomTweak:
--- Quote ---Just the other month a GROWLER had an ECS Environmental Control System failure at altitude making the instruments unreadable due severe cockpit icing.
--- End quote ---
I've read a number of stories in the Navy's Approach Magazine regarding such failures in the Hornet. The ECS would fail COLD, and couldn't be turned off, even if they got low and dumped the cockpit to use RAM AIR system to try and warm up. On one plane, no one could duplicate except one crew. >:( At least until the CO puffed out his chest and went up to "prove" it was OK. He came back blue in the face. Would have been red, buuuut... ::) :D
Needless to say, it got fixed that night ;D
I understand WHY some pilots cut the tips of the fingers of their gloves off, I just hope like heck it's never a problem for them. I've got a couple pair of Nomex flight gloves I used for riding motorcycles, and Micro's right. A real fine adjust would be difficult. I had a heck of a time trying to get a cigarette out to have a smoke while riding. :D
Have fun!
Pat☺
SpazSinbad:
OK - I'll have to understand but complain why are not BETTER fingertip gloves available? Complain Complain Complain! :-)
micro:
Spaz, you might get a kick out of this: Today, while in-flight, I brought up the fingertip discussion to my copilot. He got out of flying Prowlers/Growlers last year. He informed me that the new US Navy issue flying gloves actually are manufactured with the tips missing on the first three fingers. Go figure! Have a look...
https://www.amazon.com/Wiley-G312XL-Aries-Flight-Foliage/dp/B007XR9VC6
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