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FerrevmVnion

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SU4 Beta - Traditional Jetway issues
« on: September 09, 2025, 09:52:54 am »
Hi,

GSX is reporting "Bad Jetway Data"... its s**** so much on each first beta Build Asobo brakes the Jetways....

[00:14:39.391] FSDT_GSX_SetGate 13 6 0
[00:14:39.407] Assistance Auto mode set externally to False
[00:14:39.407] setGate() got Bad Jetway data at EDDB - Gate B 6
[00:14:39.407] Jetway status __doc__, power = (None,2), air = (None,1)
[00:14:39.407] Error: exception JETWAY_DATA in call RequestJetwayData param #99 'EDDB'
{'Airport': 'EDDB', 'User Pos': (52.364659612741406, 13.50533001583005, 47.2204 m, 2.87034 m, 68.83361881036741, 0.00356710104215223, 0.001745329238474369, 0.0008092909873869247, 3.18211187210083, 1.0), 'Requested parking services to': 'Gate B 6', 'Requested assistance services at': 'Gate B 6'}

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[01:46:10.219] emulateMenu_MSFS CHOICE -3
[01:46:10.219] channel.balance =  -1
[01:46:10.782] A321 Single Class Cabin
[01:46:10.782] GSX getAttachModelSeats from C:\Program Files (x86)\Addon Manager/MSFS/fsdreamteam-gsx-pro/SimObjects/GroundVehicles/FSDT_Passengers_Seats/model.FNX_A321/FSDT_Passengers_Seats.xml
[01:46:10.813] aircraftEngaged() got Bad Jetway data at EDDL - A01-A16 | Gate A03
[01:46:10.813] Jetway status __doc__, power = (None,2), air = (None,1)
[01:46:10.813] Requested parking services to A01-A16 | Gate A03
[01:46:10.813] aircraftEngaged
[01:46:10.813] Error: exception JETWAY_DATA in call RequestJetwayData param #99 'EDDL'
{'Airport': 'EDDL', 'User Pos': (51.281542739306005, 6.767436600653469, 39.7929 m, 2.79476 m, 274.3590801706736, -0.0003937008575969312, 0.001745329238474369, -2.4188261427470112e-05, 3.18211187210083, 1.0), 'Requested parking services to': 'A01-A16 | Gate A03', 'Requested assistance services at': 'Gate B 6'}

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Re: SU4 Beta - Traditional Jetway issues
« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2025, 10:17:45 am »
GSX is reporting "Bad Jetway Data"... its s**** so much on each first beta Build Asobo brakes the Jetways....

GSX just reports what Simconnect reports to it.

Before GSX added this in the menu, you had to dig in the GSX log to know the scenery has a problem with jetways.  Now, the problem is reported more clearly, so users will know why a jetway is not working, and won't think GSX (which doesn't control jetway) has a bug.

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Re: SU4 Beta - Traditional Jetway issues
« Reply #2 on: September 09, 2025, 02:52:21 pm »
Sure, its obvious ... dont know why i came up with the idea to open a thread here .....
*ironic off

GSX calls a Jetway, and when its not possible.......I dont need to know who is responsible to fix something, What i know is that i use GSX to get a jetway moving...
That's why i ask here: Maybe you need to change something because Asobo changed syntax, variable on how to call a jetway or whatever...

"Bad Jetway Data" is not something which would prevent me to ask here because i have no idea what is bad, what data etc....

IF i would develop a simple Winform with a button..
The 'button click event' starts a phone call to a number ... when the number has changed, i need to change the number in my program.
It does not help to write: "Bad Phone Number" .. and maybe its the same with SU4... maybe not... as i said: I dont know who needs to be addressed
« Last Edit: September 09, 2025, 03:02:06 pm by FerrevmVnion »

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Re: SU4 Beta - Traditional Jetway issues
« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2025, 09:20:21 pm »
If jetways at default airports are also reporting "Bad Jetway Data" in GSX is Asobo still to blame?

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Re: SU4 Beta - Traditional Jetway issues
« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2025, 10:38:42 pm »
Same problem here, 3rd party payware airports also have this error. SU4 beta

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Re: SU4 Beta - Traditional Jetway issues
« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2025, 02:10:01 pm »
If jetways at default airports are also reporting "Bad Jetway Data" in GSX is Asobo still to blame?
Doubtful, but Umberto will surely still blame the sim anyways.

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Re: SU4 Beta - Traditional Jetway issues
« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2025, 07:13:35 pm »
This is a bug known and reported by Microsoft and Asobo on SU4 Beta. The MSFS 2024 Dev teams is working on it.
Even people doesn't have GSX encountering the same issue

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Got Bad Jetway Data here
« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2025, 09:18:37 pm »
Airport: OPLA Gate 22
Aircraft: PMDG B777-200LR

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1) FS2020 - Unable to connect Jetway either with PMDG command or GSX or MSFS. Just purchased GSX (used to have it on my old PC for FSX). I checked the Airport customisation and the Jetway BLG exists. Unable to find option in the GSX config to turn off 3rd party Jetway control off. Need help fixing issues. I have done an update after installation to bring GSX up to Date but Jetway completely non functional!

2) Also while at La Palma, Canary islands flying ATR 42 I got purple people and no equipment showing up All invisible - See attachment

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Re: SU4 Beta - Traditional Jetway issues
« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2025, 10:23:54 am »
Doubtful, but Umberto will surely still blame the sim anyways.

This kind of attitude is really not helping anybody, because it mislead users that GSX might have anything about it so, might no really be a clear documented SU4 Beta bug (this is what it is), but might be instead a matter of personal opinion.

It's NOT.

This is a clearly documented SU4 Beta bug and GSX doesn't have ANYTHING to do with it, because:

- It happens with an empty Community folder, so no GSX and nothing else active, just default Asobo airports using default Asobo jetways.

- It happens on XBOX as well, so nobody can even try starting an argument like "maybe there's a leftover from GSX even with an empty Community folder". No way GSX would ever ran on XBOX.

- Again, on a empty Community folder on a default airport using default jetways, even the default ATC menu doesn't recognize the Jetway, as you can see here, when calling Boarding using the DEFAULT ATC Ground services menu, even you can clearly see the Jetway is there, MSFS is calling a Passenger Bus!

GSX is reporting "Bad Jetway data" because that's what is getting from Simconnect. According to the SDK documentation, that's what the 99 error code means:

https://docs.flightsimulator.com/html/Programming_Tools/SimConnect/API_Reference/Facilities/SimConnect_RequestJetwayData.htm

It means "Internal error" so, would you think that GSX should have printed just "Internal error" instead ? Would that be more clear/better ?

As I've said, before a recent update, in order to know you had a problem with Jetways, you had to enable GSX logging and dig into the log to see the 99 error, because if you didn't do that, you would only see the jetway not moving, now it's made more clear with a message that is surely more explicit than the official "Internal error", so at least you know why the jetway doesn't work.

Because, as mysterious the 99 error code it is, it can happen due to different issues, all of them already known, NONE of them obviously having anything to do with GSX:

1) A very well known bug caused by helipads located very close to a terminal, the jetway would return the 99 error, but only when called from Simconnect, it would still work with the default ATC menu for some reason, so this suggest a bug in the sim Navdata API

2) If there's a "ghost" jetway in the scenery, which means it's a jetway defined in the airport .BGL but not existing in the models library, you'll get a 99 error as well, but the jetway would also be invisible. This error is clearly an airport bug to be fixed by the airport developer but, it's particularly nasty in the way that it affect GSX because, it's enough a SINGLE jetway (not necessarily located in the gate you are in) has this problem, that ALL jetways in the airport queried from Simconnect would fail and return the 99 error, so even jetways that should be working wouldn't.

3) THIS specific SU4-Beta bug, which also reports a 99 error, but in this case the jetways are completely inoperative, in a way that even the DEFAULT ATC thinks there's no jetway there, so it sends a Passengers Bus instead.

ALL these outcomes would cause the 99 Simconnect error, which GSX translates into "Bad Jetway data", because we thought replicating the official "Internal error" from the SDK wasn't very telling.
« Last Edit: September 23, 2025, 10:39:47 am by virtuali »

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Re: SU4 Beta - Traditional Jetway issues
« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2025, 06:20:34 pm »
My Issue was resolved by Selecting to move the Airport I was at to the deactivate section. Jetway works but I wander how many other airports I may have to do this for.

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Re: SU4 Beta - Traditional Jetway issues
« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2025, 07:10:12 pm »
My Issue was resolved by Selecting to move the Airport I was at to the deactivate section. Jetway works but I wander how many other airports I may have to do this for.

How do you do that?

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Re: SU4 Beta - Traditional Jetway issues
« Reply #11 on: September 24, 2025, 04:40:30 am »
I'd like to know how to do that too, I am on the latest SU4 beta-1.6.7.0 with GSX Pro 3.7.1.
« Last Edit: September 24, 2025, 06:21:59 am by akl25020 »

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Re: SU4 Beta - Traditional Jetway issues
« Reply #12 on: September 24, 2025, 11:24:37 am »
My Issue was resolved by Selecting to move the Airport I was at to the deactivate section. Jetway works but I wander how many other airports I may have to do this for.

Uhm, are you referring to FS2024 SU4?
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Re: SU4 Beta - Traditional Jetway issues
« Reply #13 on: September 24, 2025, 06:12:58 pm »
My Issue was resolved by Selecting to move the Airport I was at to the deactivate section. Jetway works but I wander how many other airports I may have to do this for.

The subject of this thread is Jetway not working with MSFS 2024 SU4 Beta, which is a known problem with the Beta that has no solution because as I already posted before, it happens even on a DEFAULT airport, using DEFAULT Jetways, with an EMPTY Community folder, that is with no GSX installed.

Your solution only matters for MSFS 2020, but that's not really a "solution": it's how you are SUPPOSED to use GSX: in the FSDT Installer, you must use the Exclude 3rd party button (and eventually a manual ICAO search if the airport is not recognized automatically), to prevent GSX to replace Jetways of a 3rd party airport with its own, since those from GSX must be used only with default bare airports.

In MSFS 2024, it's a non-issue, since GSX replacement jetways are not even installed, so there's nothing to disable there, which means there's no way GSX could cause issues to Jetways, since its own jetways are not even installed. However, this until SU3, the latest official release. With SU4 BETA, Jetways are simply not working, and it has nothing to do with GSX.