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Sludge:
Subs...
I looked at the youtube videos last night. They are OK, just wondering what settings there are for realism. I hear "betty" wailing about "over-G" and "high-AoA", so Ill have to see what's available and what multiplayer anti-cheats are used. Also, will have to see if there's a padlock view, since Im not a TrackIR user... but still want SA in the merge.
On a real life note, I got a response from one of my Eagle driver buddies and things are still the same, Eagles dont like to go into the merge against SU-27s/SU-30s. They will mix it up in the merge in real life obviously, and we would have other air assets to help, but as far as exercises, no... they'd rather shoot BVR. Especially if there are no "handcuffs" on off-boresight Archer (AA-11) shots. The Archer is easily better than the AIM-9X (even with HMD) in all respects, probly only equaled or bettered by the Israeli Python-5, and the Ruskies/Chinese/Indians have been practicing with it for a full decade. Luckily, we still do exercises with the Indians to learn our failings (Cope Thunder) and get better at ACM/DACT. Also, his take on the "cobra" was quite different that anything Ive heard. He didnt like the idea of doing full turning-cobras as the airspeed bleed would leave him dead in the air, but more about doing "micro-pull" cobras to slowly get the edge in a turning fight. Now, Ill have to get LOMAC and see whats possible.
Anyone else have any "real world" inputs? I mean my buddy couldnt answer specifics as ranges/tactics are still classified secret or better, but he still was pretty up front about not wanting to go into the merge against SU-27s/SU-30s. But I would like to hear if anybody else has some real world stories.
Later
Sludge
SUBS17:
Thats interesting coming from an Eagle driver I seem to recall IRL a pair of SU27s got totally owned by a pair of F-14s when the 27s were first developed. As for Lockon the F-15 has changed over time with patches initially it had a higher pk with the Aim120 and then after a patch the pk became much lower and the SU27s A/A missiles much higher but with FC2 they upgraded the Aim120 to a more realistic capability and also the F-15s performance was tweaked. In Lockon you can also use the Aim120s to take HOJ(Home on Jam) shots if the other guy is using his jammer. As for realism settings if you have it on the highest setting it handles quite well and fairly realistically although it does not have a clickable pit and the FM is still Simplified compared to the SU25T and A-10C which both have Advanced Flight models. Maybe later on ED might do a F-15C DCS addon but at this stage Lockon Flaming Cliffs 2 is the best thats available. For LO I suggest you get a trakir because I used to use external views etc when I lost talley on the bandit but Trakir is the way to go.
Sludge:
--- Quote ---Thats interesting coming from an Eagle driver I seem to recall IRL a pair of SU27s got totally owned by a pair of F-14s when the 27s were first developed.
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Subs...
Where was this? I have never heard of SU-27s getting "owned" by Tomcats, especially if they were in the merge. The Tomcats ONLY saving grace was the B-D models engines. I could only envision this happening if the SU's were flown by the incompetent Iraqi (pre-invasion), Iranian, Libyan drivers. No way a Russian, Chinese, or Indian Flanker driver gets "owned" by a Tomcat.
Provide a reference for that, what theatre and what happened.
Later
Sludge
SUBS17:
Maybe it was a bit before your time I'm sure its been mentioned on this forum before. Soviet SU27s harrassing a P3 Orion got intercepted by a pair of F-14s all they did was get on their 6 and the 27s broke off and headed back to Russia. BTW don't knock the F-14 as an Iranian F-14 has beaten a Mig29 too.
Sludge:
--- Quote ---Maybe it was a bit before your time I'm sure its been mentioned on this forum before. Soviet SU27s harrassing a P3 Orion got intercepted by a pair of F-14s all they did was get on their 6 and the 27s broke off and headed back to Russia. BTW don't knock the F-14 as an Iranian F-14 has beaten a Mig29 too.
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Subs...
It couldnt have been that much before my time. Do you have a reference article for either of these events? Id like to see the where, when, whys of how F14s stayed on the tails of SU-27s. And also would like to see the specifics of the Iranian F-14 beating a MiG29. I mean, I was USMC EA-6B maintenance (vmaq-2/4) from '89 to '94. And was stationed at Whidbey Island next to a P-3 squadron and heard nothing of the sort that you just talked about, so if you could, would like some real world references.
Also, I paid attention to the Tomcat IRL since high school (84-88) since I saw Top Gun in the theatre (JR, are you jealous? haha) and thought the Tomcat was the coolest looking jet. Still is, but I've definately known for a long time its NOT a good dogfighter.
I think, getting back to my original point, the turning-Cobra can make the SU-27 even more lethal if used correctly. And Im sure by now, the Ruskies and the Indians have come up with better in-fllight real world tactics than I have talked about using that post-stall maneuver.
Later
Sludge
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