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Sludge Hornet Modifications
SUBS17:
Getting behind the bad guy was easy its the shooting part thats a little tricky yes they were AI but I've been up against plenty of people in gunzonly.(including real fighter pilots online) The rules that I stated are how its done and the reason being is that I've encountered cheating in the past with such sims and not only that FSX simply does not yet have the capability of reproducing a dogfight the same way that Lockon or F4AF does. BTW 1 vs 2 you would call that a long time for a dogfight well just remember that I'm up against aircraft that can out turn me. 8) So 10mins 1 vs 2 seems fair enough.
Like I said just grab a copy of F4AF or Lockon and we'll go for a flight.
$7.90
http://cgi.ebay.com/FALCON-4-0-ALLIED-FORCE-PC-NEW-SEALED-BOX-GUARANTEED-/130388386503?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e5bc0e2c7
$3.00 for Lockon
http://cgi.ebay.com/Lock-MODERN-AIR-COMBAT-sim-game-NEW-PC-98-XP-CD-ROM-/400140461991?cmd=ViewItem&hash=item5d2a3ae7a7
You'll be blown away by F4AF.
SUBS17:
Heres my dogfight vs 2 SU27s in Lockon guns only. This is part 1 the 1st kill.
Dogfights are like fishing some you win and some you lose. ;D
Yes I am a lousy shot thats why the 2nd kill took 8minutes. Also note this is with patch 1.02 which is before ED changed the G-Loc parameters where Stamina was added to the G-loc. I'll have to try this again with Flaming Cliffs 2.0 just to compare the differences between G-Loc and Flight model as the F-15s and SU27s also had FM tweaked.
Sludge:
SUBS...
That was a decent video of a dogfight. But seriously, that is some of the worst guns tracking I've ever seen. Did you win against these so-called "real world fighter pilots"? The only way I see that happening is if they used an integrated stick/throttle combo and were on a laptop. Additionally, you criticize the FSX Hornet's flight model but that Lock-On Eagle flight model doesn't look great either. Last time I checked, you can't just keep pulling "over-G" (Bitchin' Bob screaming at you through-out the fight), and get behind a guy to keep maneuvering for a guns kill that took you about 2 mins to get. I mean how much airframe stress/damage would you do trying to fight with an Eagle like that. Nor do you manage your energy state very well. You just keep turning with no regards to cutoff angles or airspeed.
Also, I'll ask this just ONCE. Drop the "cheating" insinuations. I'm not some knucklehead who tweaks their jet (elevator_effectiveness_scalar=1.5 or more, thrust=20k+, etc.) just to win online dogfights. I could care less about winning at any cost. I'd rather lose a realistic dogfight than win one that's slanted in my favor due to cheating on my part.
BTW, I found a copy of F4AF... installed it, w/the 1.0.3 patch and couldn't get past the startup black screen. I looked on the forums and nothing worked for that. So that's a no-go til I get Lock-On. I'll try the demo tonite and see if it works... in the meantime, so why are you against a fight in FSX? We can both take Sludge v1.1s, you can host the session "no cheats" and we can fight there?
UPDATE: Last night, I played the Lock-On demo at high realism and it is NOT all that. Yes, you can fire weapons and they have decent tracking/percentages, but the flight model is ridiculously arcade-like. I cranked up the realism and did max-G, even over-G turns and got on the plane's six every time. I may get the game anyway, but the FMs are not all that you say they are, SUBS. No better or worse than FSX.
Additionally, went in the multi. last night and had an epiphany. Got to mock-dogfight the new F-35 against the Sludge. It was definately a good go around, as nobody got any "guns close" or "fox 2 close" calls, and we stayed in a turning fight the whole time. Broke the hard deck of 10k, losing energy and called terminate. He was only in my HUD for a few snapshot microseconds and then we would pass off one side or the other and we would re-engage the turning fight. Of course, this guy "Razor" (VFA-122?) was saying something about being on my six, but thats really not the case. I had the multiplayer padlock on my upper right hand all the time, and only saw him in my six when we would do a pass and I would then plug in burner/max-G pull and get him just above my canopy rim. Which is the classic indication of a turning fight. However, for an "experimental" FSX airplane, he was pretty jacked up on it, as far as CAPEs/LIMs... will probly buy it when I get paid. Its only 15 bucks.
Later
Sludge
Orion:
If you're worried about cheating, both take the Sludge Hornet 1.1, and try shared cockpit. If there are any major differences in the FD parameters, FSX will throw you a message. Exit shared cockpit, make sure you're both using the same aircraft (check the title) and off you go.
Sludge:
Orion...
Great call. I'm all up for that, but I'm guessing SUBS won't go for it, no matter what is said or offered.
Anyway, how do you like the F-35? As you probly read, I had a mock dogfight with one last night and it was alot of fun. It can definately turn the corner, but who knows what it will look like when actual specs come out when its rolled out from production lines. Pilots will take them to Top Gun, Red Flag, USMC-WTI... then we will get the real scoop on the flight model and how it behaves in the merge.
Take care
Later
Sludge
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