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GSX won’t install **SOLVED**
brucewtb:
--- Quote from: virtuali on February 13, 2022, 11:20:34 am ---That's because we just updated them as, as explained in this very thread, after an update it might take a while for all Cloudflare nodes to get the update files, your local node might still have got the old files or, even worse, some of them might be new, some of them are still the old version.
Of course your checksums don't match the one in this thread, the installer has likely been updated other times in between so, it's not a problem if they don't match those checksum, the new ones are:
2C7DDE2E1AB5D83B18A6BEE5256216A7 gsx_p3d4_setup2-6.bin
1E705270C1CC249389DD005310D91A98 gsx_p3d4_setup2-5.bin
34169CEBD3556063052AF484BBDB4D00 gsx_p3d4_setup2-4.bin
20E04D8321AA5656BCF9288310245D64 gsx_p3d4_setup2-3.bin
D72140A7A154CC0B1CB60F1EEF62964C gsx_p3d4_setup2-2.bin
5FCBDEFF9D6B96CB736E796DE5496025 gsx_p3d4_setup2-1.bin
F5FF4B3B680F4AA7B519E190948A9C8D gsx_p3d4_setup2.exe
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Thank you for those. Unfortunately only some of the checksums match and the ones that do and don't change with repeated downloads. Furthermore all my FSDT airports have reverted to Trial Mode and the serial activation process does not work. If I attempt to run the airport installers they insist on having GSX level 2 installed so I am stuck. If I run live update it only updates my MSFS install of KORD doesn't seem to know about the P3D4 and P3D5 stuff. Is it a complication that the MSFS 2020 KORD installed into an addon manager in my MSFS2020 folder whereas the P3D4 and P3D5 FSDT airports are all in an addon manager on my P3D4 drive? I know the internet is the wild west but I am puzzled that these bad downloads are only an issue with FSDT files. Other large files are downloading and extracting without issue including the recent MSFS2020 WU and my Orbx files. If this can't be fixed then I guess it looks like the end of the road for FSDT and me (except for MSFS2020). Thank you for your past service.
Bruce
Bruce
virtuali:
--- Quote from: brucewtb on February 14, 2022, 02:15:07 am ---Unfortunately only some of the checksums match and the ones that do and don't change with repeated downloads.
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This is likely caused by your local Cloudflare node being slow getting the updated file. As an alternative, you can try using a VPN, which will trick Cloudflare to access a another node, some free ones you can try:
https://www.techradar.com/vpn/best-free-vpn
--- Quote ---Is it a complication that the MSFS 2020 KORD installed into an addon manager in my MSFS2020 folder whereas the P3D4 and P3D5 FSDT airports are all in an addon manager on my P3D4 drive?
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YES, of course it's a complication. In fact, it would surely mess FSDT completely, and I wonder HOW you even managed to DO THAT, considering all our installers prevent you to do that.
As you might have noticed, when you install an FSDT product for the first time on an clean system, it will LET YOU freely choose any destination for the main Addon Manager folder, but any product installed after the first one, won't let you, because the installer has set a key in the registry to save that location, to prevent you from doing exactly that: installing some products in one folder and other products in another one.
ALL our software, from GSX to the installers, to the updater RELY on that registry key to be set, to be correct and to the assumption that all FSDT products, regardless which simulator they are related to, will be all in the main folder together.
I still don't understand how you managed to do that, other than manually moving the installation and/or manually editing the FSDT registry key.
--- Quote ---I know the internet is the wild west but I am puzzled that these bad downloads are only an issue with FSDT files. Other large files are downloading and extracting without issue including the recent MSFS2020 WU and my Orbx files.
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You shouldn't use your own experience as an indication of anything. Because, if you checked some forums, you would see PLENTY of users complaining about extremely slow or stuck downloads, especially with MSFS 2020 updates, for example here, a topic aptly named "GIVING UP":
https://www.avsim.com/forums/topic/614963-giving-up/
So, if you got good results with Microsoft or Orbx distribution method, and now you got unlucky with FSDT one, it doesn't mean anything, other than Microsoft distribution working normally from your location, which might not work for some users ( see above ), but Cloudflare being slower than normal to get the latest files on your location, but that's also clearly not happening to the vast majority of users.
brucewtb:
When I installed KORD for MSFS2020 it just allowed me to install an addon manager folder to the NVME ssd where my MSFS2020 installation is located. I was keen to have all my MSFS2020 stuff on the same very fast drive. My P3D4.5 and P3D5.3 installations are on their own separate SSD drives. I guess the key in registry that prevents another addon folder being created didn't do its job on that occasion. The original folder was on a drive set aside for P3D4.5 that I planned to scrub as I was moving onto P3D5. But keeping FSDT stuff on my PC is just becoming too complicated. Other developers seem to manage things in a less convoluted more streamlined way and their addons continue to work over successive P3D updates with little effort on my part. I like GSX, its features add a lot to flight simming with P3D and once working FSDT airports are very high quality - I have most of them. It looks like even if I did a complete uninstall and attempt a clean reinstall of my FSDT stuff the Cloudfare gotcha is going to put a stop to that and I have no desire to go down the VPN route as the free versions have many drawbacks. If Cloudfare does work, or rather does not work, as you describe then it puts a big roadblock on the efficient transfer of content over the internet - what a bummer! Has it always been that way?
Bruce
virtuali:
--- Quote from: brucewtb on February 15, 2022, 01:56:11 am ---When I installed KORD for MSFS2020 it just allowed me to install an addon manager folder to the NVME ssd where my MSFS2020 installation is located. I was keen to have all my MSFS2020 stuff on the same very fast drive. My P3D4.5 and P3D5.3 installations are on their own separate SSD drives. I guess the key in registry that prevents another addon folder being created didn't do its job on that occasion.
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Sorry, but that's not possible, the only possible way this could have happened is if you uninstalled FSDT and reply YES to the question about removing the Addon Manager, and this CLEARED the registry key, so you were allowed to choose a new one for the MSFS installation.
This, or you manually removed the key, to force the MSFS Addon Manager to let you choose a different folder freely.
Or, you created a new user account on that PC, because the key is by-user, not by-system.
After you cleared the registry key, your old P3D install, while still having all files and still having all the sceneries working, was now ignored by the FSDT Live Update so, from its point of view, even if your P3D sceneries were still working, because their add-on.xml were still valid and pointing to their actual locations, it was now frozen in its last state, because the update would now consider only the new MSFS location.
--- Quote ---But keeping FSDT stuff on my PC is just becoming too complicated.
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You are making it complicated, because you fixated on having "P3D stuff" and "MSFT stuff" separated, as this would make ANY difference for something that is ALWAYS installed OUTSIDE THE SIMULATOR, like FSDT.
If you stopped considering the products "by sim", and started to reason as "the whole FSDT stuff", you wouldn't even tried to separate them, because it doesn't really many any sense, when they our outside the sim.
--- Quote --- Other developers seem to manage things in a less convoluted more streamlined way and their addons continue to work over successive P3D updates with little effort on my part.
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That's not the case. Other developers are making it convoluted, by doing strange things like installing something inside the sim, something outside. Or using the add-on.xml to point to something inside the sim. Or using the add-on.xml without an absolute path, putting all their stuff in the Documents folder, instead of JUST the add-on.xml
THESE questionable methods must have lead you to assume you should "separate by sim" because yes, developers doing all these convoluted things forced you to think this way, when in fact, the reality is the opposite: the PROPER way we use the add-on.xml, which is:
- DO NOT install ANYTHING into P3D
- Place ONLY the add-on.xml in the Documents folder, but use absolute paths to ANY drive you want.
This is PRECISELY what allow you to "have the addons continue to work over successive P3D updates with NO effort on your part" ZERO effort, because the place where you install "THE FSDT STUFF" is not related in any way to the simulator used, and P3D has been *designed* to have add-ons surviving an complete simulator reinstall, but not all developers use this feature in the proper way, which I assure you it's the one we use. There are *whole* P3D Add-ons ( Lorby's Addon Manager, for example ) to achieve exactly what we already do BY DEFAULT!
Clearly, this means the whole issue of wanting to keep MSFS and P3D stuff is completely irrelevant, when the folder is completely separated from the simulator. What's simpler than:
- EVERYTHING from FSDT installed in a SINGLE place, the main Addon Manager folder
- The P3D products being visible because their own add-on.xml, placed in the Documents\Prepar3d Add-ons folder, pointing to Addon Manager folder, regardless where it is
- The MSFS products inside the Addon Manager\MSFS folder, with just a Symbolic Link to the Community folder so, again no Community folder is being harmed here. There are whole MSFS ADD-ONS (Addon Linker ) made just to achieve with other products what we already do BY DEFAULT ( creating a Symbolic Link to the Community folder to let you install the scenery everywhere )
--- Quote ---If Cloudfare does work, or rather does not work, as you describe then it puts a big roadblock on the efficient transfer of content over the internet - what a bummer! Has it always been that way?
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Of course it has, that's the way a CDN works but, after a day or to, the whole world gets all the latest files, and all complains stops immediately.
Developers that don't use CDNs have their own server down or incredibly slow for a few days after a major release, people complain ( or they just say "wow, that product launch was a success!!" ) but the end result is the same: affected users still can't get their download for a day or two, then the problem disappear by itself once the traffic goes to normal levels.
brucewtb:
"Sorry, but that's not possible, the only possible way this could have happened is if you uninstalled FSDT and reply YES to the question about removing the Addon Manager, and this CLEARED the registry key, so you were allowed to choose a new one for the MSFS installation. This, or you manually removed the key, to force the MSFS Addon Manager to let you choose a different folder freely. Or, you created a new user account on that PC, because the key is by-user, not by-system."
Ok further to this I can adamantly declare that I did not uninstall FSDT and at the time knew nothing about the FSDT registry keys (I do now) or created a new user account when I installed KORD for MSFS2020. None of these things happened. So something else happened to overwrite the addon manager registry path or maybe at some previous time my P3D FSDT stuff got corrupted and I didn't notice because of being preoccupied with MSFS2020. Now that I have a better understanding of the way FSDT is installed I can see where you are coming from so I too am puzzled. Anyhow it does explain why my P3D FSDT stuff was so screwed up. I will now completely scrub FSDT from my PC using the procedures described elsewhere on this site and hopefully manage to get a clean FSDT download if cloudfare allows me to do so and have a think about where to put addon manager. But I do prefer the way Orbx organises their stuff allowing me to have separate libraries for P3D4, P3D5 and MSFS2020 all installed outside the sim.
Bruce
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