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virtuali:
Please use SODE own Log, which includes lot of more information in a clearer way, including data about the communication with GSX with its own API.

Pete Dowson:

--- Quote from: virtuali on June 16, 2021, 09:27:23 am ---Please use SODE own Log, which includes lot of more information in a clearer way, including data about the communication with GSX with its own API.
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It may well do, and it may tell you what is going wrong, but I am simply recording the messages and menus which GSX actually shows on screen. SODE can't do that, it can only perhaps tell you what perhaps should have been shown (and with luck why it wasn't). If so then I can see that should be a help for you in resolving it.

So, I'll try to remember to grab it next time I find my aircraft parked a few inches off the strict accuracy required by the Jetway (which I thought was GSX2 not SODE -- it's in the GSX folder) and get no response, not even an error pointing out the inaccuracy.

Pete

virtuali:

--- Quote from: Pete Dowson on June 16, 2021, 12:33:36 pm ---So, I'll try to remember to grab it next time I find my aircraft parked a few inches off the strict accuracy required by the Jetway (which I thought was GSX2 not SODE -- it's in the GSX folder) and get no response, not even an error pointing out the inaccuracy.
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I can only repeat and confirm that, unless you disabled the Info text in the sim:

- If the jetway is a GSX jetway, but GSX Level 2 is not activated (and you are not on an FSDT airport, where you can use GSX jetways without a registration), it will say:

"GSX Level 2 not activated, jetways won't move"

- If SODE cannot solve the jetway, it will say:

"No jetway can operate at this position"

- If the parking doesn't have a GSX/SODE jetway or plain SODE jetway, it say:

"No SODE jetway docked. You will not see passengers visually"

- If SODE is not installed, or it couldn't communicate with GSX, or it crashed, it will say:

"SODE Connection lost"


Also, I don't know why you keep mentioning a supposedly "strict" accuracy required. As I've said, there's no such thing as a jetway "tolerance" anywhere in the whole GSX. The jetways work with an IK system so, they either solve or they don't.

GSX doesn't try to solve anything on its own. It simply asks SODE if jetways solve and on which door, and SODE will reply indicating which jetways ( if any ) solve on which doors, so GSX will either show the jetway menu, or it will show one of the aforementioned error messages.

As with any IK system, there's no such thing as "tolerance", something will either solve, or it will not but again, without knowing the PRECISE, EXACT situation, which means:

- your airplane door configuration

- your actual position on ground when you asked for the jetways

- the precise, exact, kind of jetway it was used on that specific parking spot

Without all this data, it's impossible to say if the jetway didn't solve by a small or large amount. Most of GSX jetways have a very high working range, but this assuming the airplane doors are configured precisely, the jetway has been chosen correctly for the parking spot, and the stop position has been set in a place where that jetway could conceivably work with some margin.

Pete Dowson:

--- Quote from: virtuali on June 16, 2021, 01:13:58 pm ---I can only repeat and confirm that, unless you disabled the Info text in the sim:
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So, you list no message for a GSX2 jetway (yes, with GSX2 active) but one which won't dock because I'm parked slightly off? That's what I'm asking for -- a message, not just leaving one waiting with nothing happening.

Pete

virtuali:

--- Quote from: Pete Dowson on June 16, 2021, 01:20:43 pm ---So, you list no message for a GSX2 jetway (yes, with GSX2 active) but one which won't dock because I'm parked slightly off?
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That's precisely the case I listed here:


--- Quote ---- If SODE cannot solve the jetway, it will say: "No jetway can operate at this position"
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This covers all cases of a jetway not docking because of your position, it doesn't matter at all how MUCH you were off, there's no concept anywhere in GSX about handling *how much* off you are. SODE won't tell GSX how much off you are as if GSX could possibly do some kind of decision and let auto-magically operate the jetway ( GSX doesn't operate the jetway, SODE does ).

It's only a yes/no, which is the only thing possible with an IK solver and, since it will be SODE that would actually move the jetway, using exactly the same calculations it used to report the result of the test to GSX, it won't be very useful for GSX knowing how much off you are, considering it's SODE that will have to animate the jetway anyway.

It's not as if GSX could possibly do anything to solve something that won't solve. Or, more precisely, that might solve, but couldn't because of the jetway mechanical constraints, which are known to SODE, and are there to prevent things like jetways broken in pieces, which sometimes happens using default jetway, because the solving systems are less precise and likely more "tolerant" ( from an IK point of view ).

The default jetway is more tolerant, resulting in visible bugs, because there's only ONE jetway model, so they tried to make it work everywhere. GSX has more than 80 different models to choose from, which makes impossible not being able to find one that doesn't adapt to a certain parking/airplane/stop position combination.

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