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SpazSinbad:
burner12, I'll have to relook at a CASE x approach diagram for the Hornet. However as a rough guess IF THE BALL IS VISIBLE which I doubt from any distance beyond 1.5nm one may see a 'red ball' but nothing else of note. This presupposes one is at a level at that distance which allows one to see the 'red ball'. In FSX - if the red waveoff lights are flashing and you are not within visual range and NOT TOO LOW - then of course ignore these lights at that 'super long in the groove distance' - whatever it might be. I'll look for the Hornet NATOPS CASE X diagrams now.
Otherwise I hope it is clear during an ordinary day approach (not straight in) seeing a red ball is a NoNO! In daytime we are always assuming that you are within any other daytime parameters in the circuit where the RED BALL (which will be seen in relation to the dataum lights) means wave off.
burner12:
--- Quote from: SpazSinbad on December 25, 2009, 03:33:06 am ---burner12, I'll have to relook at a CASE x approach diagram for the Hornet. However as a rough guess IF THE BALL IS VISIBLE which I doubt from any distance beyond 1.5nm one may see a 'red ball' but nothing else of note. This presupposes one is at a level at that distance which allows one to see the 'red ball'. In FSX - if the red waveoff lights are flashing and you are not within visual range and NOT TOO LOW - then of course ignore these lights at that 'super long in the groove distance' - whatever it might be. I'll look for the Hornet NATOPS CASE X diagrams now.
Otherwise I hope it is clear during an ordinary day approach (not straight in) seeing a red ball is a NoNO! In daytime we are always assuming that you are within any other daytime parameters in the circuit where the RED BALL (which will be seen in relation to the dataum lights) means wave off.
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I understand now thanks SpazSinbad. And don't trouble yourself in finding that Case X approach. IF you do great, but if not no big deal. I guess sometimes I roll in a little too close and too low. but I know I'll get my sea legs back after doing some practice.
SpazSinbad:
One example of a 'step down' approach (for safety) is a CCA Carrier Controlled Approach. Diagram from NATOPS shows the step down - remember though until a set distance or calling the ball the approaching pilot/aircraft is under control of the 'approach controller' on the ship, who is watching a precision radar screen to advise pilot of course to steer and rate of descent to maintain - until minimums reached. These minimums (height / distance) may apply to different pilot experience levels [this would be another strand to investigate].
Going only on long ago limits (for example) with this type of approach, some pilots had to overshoot if the runway / mirror were not seen at half a mile / 400 feet or for the more experienced (and via skill testing) quarter of a mile and 200 feet. Coming out of cloud at that minimum to see the ball - and deck land - even in daytime is no joke. I'm not claiming to have done it but watched an A4G from the LSO platform make such a minimum approach. A very good one it was also.
Other 'CASE' approach diagrams will follow.
burner12:
You know I just tried an appproach out with Fernandez's carriers and at night along with that new HUd. And when I was 1.0nm out the ball finally changed from red to yellow and green lights across. So it seems FSX does simulate it in a fair enough way.
SpazSinbad:
burner12, yep - another diagram - this time from the LSO NATOPS showing some things to be considered in the carrier circuit when ship is rolling for example. However all this stuff is 'by the by' if the pilot is watching the meatball etc and flying according to NATOPS advice (not going below 400 feet? before sighting the ball for example). There is a diagram showing the distance / height that the ball / glideslope can cover - not that it means a lot to the pilot who needs to be able to see sharply enough to differentiate what the lights show in relation to datum. Once beyond around 1.5nm apparently it is just a bright light (which may be red apparently). Certainly carrier landing and the aids for such are precision instruments which need to be used precisely for a good outcome.
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