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Problem with latest FSDT live update from 10.06.20. - SOLVED -
frantzy:
I found a thread discussing an issue with a recent Windows 10 updates affecting older nvidia gpus, could be a route to investigate.
https://www.avsim.com/forums/topic/576021-windows-10-2004-bsod-on-startup-after-updating-from-1909/?do=findComment&comment=4253371
Umberto, the part I don’t understand about a longstanding known issue with undocked gauges is that I’ve flown this way from FSX, and since the inception of P3D thru now (v4.5), several flights per week, never had this issue until the past couple days.
andypanda:
Hi Umberto,
Thank you for your reply.
I have tried the same things as you, tried with the nVidia GeForce experience overlay enabled or disabled, no difference, no fps loss when undocking in either way (without GSX).
The only time I have a big FPS loss is when I make the FSDT live update.
Starting P3D V4.5 with GSX enabled everything works fine, great FPS, GSX as normal, jetways, passengers, bagage and so on, no problems.
I can undock and move several windows on the main display (3 monitors on a Nvidia GeForce GTX 980 graphic card), still everything is great.
As soon as I move any of the the undocked windows to the fourth monitor (running alone on a Nvidia GeForce GTX 970 graphic card), I get the sharp drop in FPS fom around 60 to 2-3 FPS.
As soon as I move the undocked windows back onto the main display everything runs again super.
When I go back to the old restore point from Tuesday morning 09.06.20., (without GSX), everything is ok again, I can move undocked windows to the fourth display, no FPS loss whatsoever.
The only setback is that I have no GSX available to use it with jetways, passengers, bagage and so on.
I am at a loss, don't know what else to do.
As I described in my first post everything was working great since I bought the Prepar3D v4 Professional License in December 2018 until Wednesday morning 10.06.20. when I ran FSDT live update.
I did no Windows or programm updates of any sort between Tuesday and Wednesday, and only with GSX activated I have the problem.
I am not blaming you and your programm, just looking for help on how to solve this.
Best regards.
Andy
virtuali:
--- Quote from: andypanda on June 12, 2020, 04:21:43 pm ---As soon as I move any of the the undocked windows to the fourth monitor (running alone on a Nvidia GeForce GTX 970 graphic card), I get the sharp drop in FPS fom around 60 to 2-3 FPS.
--- End quote ---
I think with two different graphic card, it's an entirely different issue. Again, nothing that I can imagine could be cause by GSX and, surely not the latest update, since if it really was related to GSX, it should always happened.
Of course, it's not really "GSX", maybe the fact GSX use the Render To Texture feature from the P3D4 SDK to render using DirectX inside textures, to create logo and Fonts more efficiently than it use to in FSX. We have been using this method in P3D 4.4 since GSX L2 came out and nothing in the latest update has change anything in that.
If the Render to Texture feature of the P3D4 SDK had a problem with a 4th monitor connected to a 2nd card, it would have been like this since 2018, when GSX L2 came out. We know there are issues with SLI, maybe this is related to it, but there's not much we can do from GSX, other than not using that feature, and of course we gave the option, since you can disabled it from the Addon Manager. You'll lose operator logos and font displays ( jetway numbers, for example ), but at least you will know it was that.
andypanda:
Hi Mike,
Thank you for your input with the win10 updates and Issue with older drivers for Nvidia display adapters (GPU).
I am not running Windows 10.
My system is:
Windows 7 Ultimate, Service Pack 1 - 64 bit operating system
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-5930K CPU @ 3.50 GHz processor
Installed memory - 16.0 GB PC4-19200 DDR4 SDRAM
1 Nvidia GeForce GTX 980 graphic card with 4096 MB GDDR5 SDRAM - latest Nvidia driver 446.14 - using this card with 3 monitors in suround mode for the cockpit.
1 Nvidia GeForce GTX 970 graphic card with 4096 MB GDDR5 SDRAM - latest Nvidia driver 446.14 - using this card with 1 monitor for undocked windows from the P3d V4.5 or vPilot.
2 SATA Samsung SSD PRO 1 TB drives (1 for the windows operating system, 1 for the flight simulator).
1 SATA WDC WD30EFRX - 68 EUZN0 3000GB HD to store music, pictures, and so on.
andypanda:
Dear Umberto,
Thank you for your last reply, it solved the issue! :)
I used the FSDT live update and started the simulator.
In the addon manager I disabled RTT, restarted P3D V4.5, and now everything works again as before. I can move undocked windows to the fourth display, no FPS loss whatsoever.
Why this is like this I don't know, I never changed anything in the addon manager.
Anyway, thank you for your patience and your help.
Have a nice weekend. :)
Andy
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