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newmanix:
I agree, it's very impressive. But, you most likely need have to have all sliders maxed out in order for it to look that good. Which isn't the problem, it's the framerates. Even the framerates in the video, were not as smooth as the results I get in FS9. Yes, indeed, for that level of quality with is far better than FS9, the frames were not bad. But to get even those frame rates, must be on quite an expensive system. Still waiting on a system that can yeld me 50FPS average with maxed sliders for $2000 or less.
Thanks for sharing. ;)
JamesChams:
--- Quote from: newmanix on September 30, 2009, 06:32:49 pm ---...it's very impressive. But, you most likely need have to have all sliders maxed out in order for it to look that good. Which isn't the problem, it's the framerates. Even the framerates in the video, were not as smooth... the frames were not bad. But to get even those frame rates, must be on quite an expensive system. Still waiting on a system that can yeld me 50FPS average with maxed sliders for $2000 or less.
Thanks for sharing. ;)
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Mr. "Newmanix,"
Here is his system spec.'s and FPS test on his blog: http://orbxsystems.com/forums/index.php?topic=14930.msg129492;boardseen#new
And, this video to show you that the FPS issue is NOT much of an issue any more, even with some limited tech. spec. rigs.
Also, I'll Post my NEW system spec.'s, as you and others have requested, after Oct. '8th '09, when it gets finalized.
Enjoy! ;)
virtuali:
--- Quote from: newmanix on September 30, 2009, 06:32:49 pm ---Even the framerates in the video, were not as smooth as the results I get in FS9.
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The video on Youtube is encoded at 25 fps, regardless on what framerate the FSX PC was running at. Which means, on top of not being the real frame rate, it will look jumpy without perfect synchronization between the gaming frame rate and the video encoding framerate, which is the case here. And, there's probably the overhead due to fraps, or whatever they use to capture the video.
So, it's always wrong to judge smoothness from a video, both when it's good and when is not so good.
That's why, instead of spending time creating videos, we prefer to give freely downloadable Trial versions of the scenery.
JamesChams:
--- Quote from: virtuali on September 30, 2009, 07:40:22 pm ---
--- Quote from: newmanix on September 30, 2009, 06:32:49 pm ---Even the framerates in the video, were not as smooth as the results I get in FS9.
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...That's why, instead of spending time creating videos, we prefer to give freely downloadable Trial versions of the scenery.
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Virtuali,
I glad, for a change, that you decided to join this discussion and not because you are having to ask everyone to behave. ;)
But, shameless "FSDT Plug" :P - Just Kidding! ;D I like it when developers share their knowledge and opinions about their products and how they differ or improvements in the overall methods being employed; so, come on back with more, anytime. 8) And, I for one, LOVE the "Trial Before You Buy" feature in your products. It's like going to the store and playing with the toys to see if you like them before you have to pay the price of asking "Mom" to fork the bill. ;D (Or in my case, NO one's there to argue with about it. :'()
However, Mr. John V. was NOT using fraps to record the session in his blog but, his iPhone. He ONLY used FRAPS to show the FPS counter as a demo of the scenery FPS he was getting on his rig., which was pretty impressive since most users complain about FPS with FSX. And, really, that is NOT the case anymore with a moderately good and inexpensive hardware setup.
"You'll come on back now, you'hear!" - a (Kentucky, OH. USA) Neighbourly Expression.
Ciao! :)
virtuali:
--- Quote from: JamesChams on September 30, 2009, 08:26:52 pm ---However, Mr. John V. was NOT using fraps to record the session in his blog but, his iPhone.
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Which, of course, is not what I've said.
Read again, carefully, what I've wrote: the complain about not so good fps was related to the FIRST video you posted, which is cleary captured directly from the PC, not with a camera in front of the monitor, as the SECOND video is, that is far more smooth than the first one (although is also running on a much more powerful machine).
And that simply proves my point that, video captured with fraps, like the first one, and encoded at stardard video rates, can be quite misleading about the actual smoothness.
The second video, being captured with a camera (iPhone, which still is a videocamera...) pointed at the monitor, is way smoother , both because it gets the inherent video motion blurring AND because fraps is not taxing the system too much, because it's only showing the fps counter, and not capturing.
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