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SpazSinbad:
For historical interest and perhaps IF there is a suitable SEA VAMPIRE out there for flight sims it may be worth a try to simulate the first pure jet deck landing 03 Dec 1945. The attached 26 page PDF has info about the Sea Vampire single seat variant WITH HOOK and how to go about deck landing same. The PDF has been reprinted to reduce file size which then makes the URLs seen on the page not live but they can be copied & pasted into a browser. There are a few online videos showing the first Sea Vampire deck landing with Eric 'Winkle' Brown at the controls. He went on to amass 2,047 deck landings with an incredible number of aircraft overall. Sadly he died at age 97 a few years ago now. Lots of NavAv Videos from then to NOW here plus the Sea Vampire/Vampire videos.
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Sea Vampire 1st Deck Landing HMS Ocean 03 December 1945
1st Sea Vampire Deck Landing & Takeoff HMS Ocean 03Dec1945
Eric 'Winkle' Brown 1st Sea Vampire Deck Landing 03 Dec 1945 HMS Ocean
Last RAN Vampire Flight Side No 805 CMDR Lee on 17 Oct 1970
Kiwi Warbird Vampire Formation Low Pass Pilot & Outside Views
SpazSinbad:
I'm not certain of the number of Vampires now in USofA (I recall seeing some on the tarmac at the San Diego airport back in early 1973). This dual seat RAAF Vampire trainer has just been refurbished to be brought inside (from outside - gack!) at the PIMA museum. Photo at ADFserials.com : http://www.adf-messageboard.com.au/invboard/uploads/post-6-1525731515.jpg "Vampire A79-661 at Pima Air and Space Museum"
The rubber flexible deck landing without wheels Sea Vampire was flown by LCDR Eric 'Winkle' Brown who was injured during the first trials of this madness ashore (but at that time good reasons were thought to exist) but it was 'not to be' thank goodness. :-)
First Deck Landing Sea Vampire F.20 03 Dec 1945 HMS Ocean [BEST QUALITY]
de Havilland F.20 Sea Vampire Flexible Rubber Deck Arrest Test
PhantomTweak:
--- Quote --- ...to be brought inside (from outside - gack!) at the PIMA museum.
--- End quote ---
Having lived, if you can call it that, in Yuma, a hellish town relatively near Pima, for nearly 30 years, I can say that probably the greatest threat to the Vampire in Pima was dust. And heat. The heat in that area is pretty intense, and if it was closed up tight, with the sun beating down on it, you could probably boil water in the cockpit in the middle of the day.
Bring it in, blow it off, wipe the canopy, good to go. The super-fine dust holds on tight, so a soft cloth and some cleaner for the canopy. Same for the instrument faces. I don't care how "sealed" it was, the dust will get in. To EVERY thing. It's going to have dust in places you'd think dust couldn't go. The stuff is incredibly invasive, and it's both abrasive as all heck, AND conductive. :P
Probably have to chase out the wasps, "killer" bees, scorpions and snakes before you could work on it, though. Maybe a nest of fire-ants in the gear wells. You think the DUST is invasive?? HA! The critters are worse. :-\
Maybe it IS better to have brought it inside, if they want it displayable at all...
Miserable fricken place, Southern Arizona. Hated every minute of it...
Pat☺
SpazSinbad:
Thanks for the environment update Pat. I'm guessing that the boneyard is not far away from there for US Aircraft? But they get sealed up tight from all accounts. There is a new sealant going around for the 'gate guardians' which I hope does the job for a long time, however the Vampire & Sea Venom for example are special cases (unless you know of some other wooden fuselage US jet aircraft?). By the by I guess but have a look at what lies beneath the silver paint on top of the canvas [the canvas could strip in flight making alarming noises banging on the fuselage] covering the Vampire fuselage.... (probably could stand the dry heat of that locale reasonably well though - apart from the assorted hazards cited above). Not sure if this photo is still at the URL but anyway: Better photo than I remembered because I cropped it as shown....
Photo by Brenden: http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=7441332
“De Havilland Vampire T.35 A79-603 at RAAF Pearce Air Force Base - YPEA 19 May 2012” https://cdn.jetphotos.com/full/3/93762_1345888030.jpg
The engine is in a metal tube aft of cockpit 'nacelle' which is wood as described. The wings and tail booms are metal thank goodness. :-) US use 'vinyl adhesive wraps' now - see two page PDF attached with one page this and a page about the rubber deck Vampire'. USN carried out their own rubber deck trials explicated in the PDF.
lowery:
Hi Guys,
Where can I find an airfield(s) for carrier landing practise and qualification in P3Dv4?
TIA, Roger
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