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virtuali:

--- Quote from: ACSoft on March 15, 2009, 12:16:34 am ---Of course, but PMDG module has all its justification to be there. There is a lot of useful functions for flying this bird there !!! What can I do with your module ? Nothing (you just told me that), except actions which have nothing to do with flying an aircraft !
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You are making the mistake of assuming that, since YOU don't do anything with it, it means the module has no use. The scenery use it, for several features, which you don't see, but it's EXACTLY like an airplane using FSUIPC in the background for reading/writing values from FS9 so, you need to keep it installed, even if you might not be necessarily interested in the other features you are instead interacting with, like joystick calibration, weather, etc.

I haven't said our sceneries don't use the Addon Manager except for protection, I've said our sceneries don't use the specific functions you asked that have a menu interface that you can interact with. But still the scenery use the Addon Manager internally and, there's EVEN A FAQ PAGE ON THIS SITE about what it does, other than activation. However, there are also additional features not mentioned on the FAQ, like time of the day/day of the week detection to create seasonal-specific objects like winter trees, etc, there's detection of the weather condition on ground to communicate to the scenery if it's raining/snowing to make specific objects like ice on side of the taxiways to appear, etc.

So, even if you don't have any need to *interact* with it, the scenery needs the Addon Manager. Now, you might say you are not interested in those features but...hey...it's our scenery, right ?



--- Quote ---It would be also great if you always specify a version No somewhere.
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The version number is shown on the installer when it starts.



--- Quote ---So I had to lose my time to investigate this and found that most probably, actual downloadable version is up to date.
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Our downloadable versions is ALWAYS up to date because, since we distribute products in Trial versions, as soon as we have a fix released, we immediately keep the installer in sync, because we obviously want to have the Trial version as updated as it could be.

The reason for this is just that you DON'T have to lose your time to look in the forum to know if you version is updated: if you just downloaded it, it certainly is.

I personally hate to be forced to keep a main installer, which might be old, and a series of patches that might have come out over the lifetime of a product, and have to install all of them in sequence to reinstall a product from scratch. But this is the only way for developers without a fully working Trial version that includes the whole product: they are forcing users to keep track of a main installer+several patches, because they can't let the whole installer to be freely available.


--- Quote ---Please, don't take it bad. I mean, my intention is not to be rude with you, but just to help you realize the little problems a newcomer may hit. 
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Yes, I realize you were probably just starting up knowing our stuff because, the discussions about the supposed usefulness of the Addon Manager were something we never heard in a while, since probably Cloud9's times, so the questions about how to be sure the version is updated, because our users have becomed accustomed about how we work, so it was a while since the last time I've heard such questions.

ACSoft:
Sorry, but you didn't read carefully what I wrote:

I told you that now, the actually installed version IS COMPATIBLE WITH BOTH FS9.EXE VERSION.

This is exactly why I took the time to write to you all what I done in details. Because, IT WASN'T CONFORM TO WHAT YOU EXPLAINED IN THE FORUM WHICH I HAVE READED. Why to install two different versions, if one of them work in BOTH cases !!! So there is something strange and therefore, I repeat my question:

What shall I do ?

I have just again loaded all my four "cold start" situation flights on each different airport and all seem to work perfectly WITH EITHER FS9.EXE NO CD and ORIGINAL FS9.EXE.



--- Quote from: virtuali on March 15, 2009, 12:07:46 am ---I can only confirm there aren't any difference between the two versions with regard to menu creation or any supposed slowdowns, which shouldn't be there in the first place, as nobody else reported it before. This might be also depending on how many other additional menu items you have in FS9, though so, if you have several, you might notice a slowdown that you wouldn't otherwise see with less modules. 

Anyway, I still don't see the issue: unless the slowdown is really significant ( you haven't said how severe it is: it's in the order of 1/10 of a second, or it's several seconds ? ), you should worry if the program slowed down the *sim* while flying, rather than the menu creation.

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It is about 1-1.5 second. But forget it. I will survive with that ! LOL !

Alain Capt
ACSoft Productions

ACSoft:
Hi Umberto,

Thanks for all these further informations. Now all is perfectly clear (except why the bglman.dll for original FS9.EXE work also with NO-CD FS9.EXE).

Yes, I have readed also the FAQ, but didn't realized that the feature you mentionned, like customizing some objects according with the seasons, was one of the duty of this module. So, I have a great and good justification to think about, each time I will look at this ""damned"" unuseful menu !!! LOL !!!

And in any cases, as you said perfectly rightly, you are the father of this addon, not me !!! LOL !!!

Regards,

Alain Capt
ACSoft Productions

virtuali:

--- Quote from: ACSoft on March 15, 2009, 12:52:08 am ---This is exactly why I took the time to write to you all what I done in details. Because, IT WASN'T CONFORM TO WHAT YOU EXPLAINED IN THE FORUM WHICH I HAVE READED.
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Nowhere in the forum has been said that the version that is compatible with the cd protection is not also compatible with the no-cd, we just said you need to run the installer each time you switch between versions, which is just the simplest thing to explain.

Since we keep updating stuff, it might be we gained compatibility with both versions in the meantime, but we can't just replace all the installers that have been already downloaded by several thousand of users, that have the logic to switch between the two versions, and automatically update them online.



--- Quote ---Why to install two different versions, if one of them work in BOTH cases !
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Because we simply have tested this combination better, so we can fully guarantee it will work. If you are noticing the version for the cd protection works good for you with a no-cd FS9.EXE, that's fine, just leave it as it is.

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