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CArrier Landings
micro:
"Paddles contact" states that the LSO can now see the approaching aircraft. On Case 3 (IFR) approaches, the aircraft is getting line up and glide slope instructtions from CATCC. Once the LSO sees them, "Paddles contact" is really a call to ATC saying, "I'll take it from here".
SpazSinbad:
mircorbrewst, Thanks for clearing that up about "Paddles Contact".
SUBS17:
--- Quote from: microbrewst on January 10, 2009, 10:15:23 am ---"Paddles contact" states that the LSO can now see the approaching aircraft. On Case 3 (IFR) approaches, the aircraft is getting line up and glide slope instructtions from CATCC. Once the LSO sees them, "Paddles contact" is really a call to ATC saying, "I'll take it from here".
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Then paddles contact is ok for Carrier Practice mission since that features low cloud but the Carrier tutorial it would be incorrect since its an VFR approach?
SpazSinbad:
subs17, from 'microbrewst' reply it would seem that in the 'VFR Mission' (I have not seen it yet) of FSX - if the pilot is flying a visual approach to the carrier - then 'Paddles Contact' is incorrect if it is apparently a substitute for the 'Roger Ball' response to the pilot's 'Ball Call'.
However in other circumstances, such as making a practice Instrument Approach (pretend flying in cloud on instruments when there is no cloud) that might be a scenario when the "Paddles Contact" is used. But the call is to the Carrier Air Traffic Controllers (who may be guiding the aircraft to the safe minimums so that the pilot can then call the ball) to let them know (and the pilot) that the LSO has the aircraft in sight.
When the pilot sees the meatball he will then make that 'ball' call with the LSO 'Roger Ball' response.
Please remember that often in documentaries or feature films, if the LSO is portrayed talking a lot to the Pilot then that is a scripted trick to make the scene more dramatic - unless for example it is portraying an emergency approach. Otherwise nothing much is said as per other info on this thread. It is like seeing movie jet pilots flying without their face masks secured. This is another movie trick to allow the audience to see the pilot's face - which would be obscured in real life and not very dramatic.
SUBS17:
You should see the F/A-18 missions in FSX then I suggest try them out the 3rd one is a Carrier approach at night in bad weather without TACAN/ILS and thats the only one where he Calls the ball. IMO you won't find much realism in FSX if you're comparing it to anything since its designed as a civilian flight sim and there are very few exceptions to that unless you want to create your own custom file for the LSO I think FD5 has LSO and Tacan.
--- Quote ---Please remember that often in documentaries or feature films, if the LSO is portrayed talking a lot to the Pilot then that is a scripted trick to make the scene more dramatic - unless for example it is portraying an emergency approach. Otherwise nothing much is said as per other info on this thread. It is like seeing movie jet pilots flying without their face masks secured. This is another movie trick to allow the audience to see the pilot's face - which would be obscured in real life and not very dramatic.
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Yeah I don't spend too much time watching such movies Dude but I am well aware of what LSOs do from watching a few HUD/Landing tapes. BTW I've found the ultimate Carrier sim ;D just make sure microbrewst doesn't see this.
http://nz.youtube.com/watch?v=2AKIKcF4IAg
No not F-14s!
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