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Manchester EGCC:
Hi, Im an oldie trying to return to FSX with a purpose built xp computer, leaving my windows 7 gaming machine in bedroom. i have a box room 7feet by 8feet, currently constructing part cockpit, and just had delivered a really good A320 flight school cockpit training poster, which is in printers to be stretched to fit my panels. Unfortunately i have had many problems, not least of trying to use an analogue matrox2 monitor box to stretch across two samsung 19inchers. In the end, because my ATI catalist program is not recognised by XP as being a correct program, Im unable to get the DVID output of the new graphic card, to show the image across two screens, using DVI D - VGA adapter, Nor am I able to install the INF file on the driver suite from the matrox site, so had to give that up as a bad job, so got just one 27 inch benQ Monitor being delivered this week.

Anyway, after just playing around a bit, I decided  to try FS passengers, Im  A British Airways fan, so my company and what revolves around it is purely BA. As yet, Im just trying the demo, but anyway, I use two planes at the moment. A BA 320 (project Airbus) from fs.freeware.com and a BAE 146 same livery, as I live an hours drive from Manchester Airport I see both of these planes regularly. I installed the liverpool and manchester Airport addons recently and they certainly very good.

But my flirting with this GSX I saw on Utube tutorials has me very frustrated. Im following a really good tutorial at the moment, I move the plane to Munich because this is an evaluation only, i stop the engines, I changed the start of gsx to just F12 and F11 respectfully. I also changed the assigment to open doors to "M" as suggested by tutorial, so M1 M2 M3 and so on.

However, I cant save this new assignment at all, if i exit fsx or crash, it goes back to shift E is it?     Anyway, my main problems really are getting the catering doors to open, The van appears, but the man walks straight through the closed service door with his head poking out of the top of plane, ??? the lift of the van is to high?? ??? i have tried all sorts of things to make exit3 work, but it dont, and I have beeps all the time asking me to open  exit 3... I can open baggage doors and main  doors. I  opened my aircraft configuration window from the drop down menu, the #1 fsx open main doors works fine, but #2 sometimes hangs, but exit 3, nothing on earth will open those starboard service doors, and it usually ends with fsx crashing, then I lose my "M" saved assignment. I used to be quite good with these problems way back in 2000, but Im a silver surfer now almost retired, I lack the digital knowledge now to understand whats going on, however Im still sharp on actual flights / ATC / way points and landing ok. I treated myself to a saitek unit with undercarriage lever, this works a treat, but I really dont want to pay out £25 for gsx, if third party British Airways planes are not going to usable with it obviously. I am not technically as profient as i was, so opening up complicated bits of code, to fix what seems to be a simple problem. I dont know why i get two catering trucks that duplicate each other either, wierd, if anyone has any possible answers to these catering doors, that just wont open what ever i do, on both the A320 and he BAE 146...been trying 3 nights now, really tired, and getting frustrated, when you get older you just want to play and go, seems FSX is still a long way from that, :-\ Dont want to give up on it yet, but the amount of headaches i have encountered since getting back into it 2 months ago, is getting me to a point, where I wont continue building any more of the cockpit....Thanks for any ideas. i havent tried any default fsx planes because i wont be using them, as my company is BA, I have to use third party content and fs.freeware has a great addit program, that unzips the file and installs the whole plane for you, I really dont want to have a load of folders to try and find a path for, them days are gone for me. But if anyone maybe knows of a store where British airways planes come on a dvd and install auto, but work with gsx i be open to having a look at them. thanks for reading. regards mike

Hnla:
I honestly feel sorry for Virtuali who has to read all of this.

virtuali:

--- Quote from: Manchester EGCC on May 17, 2015, 11:22:25 pm ---But my flirting with this GSX I saw on Utube tutorials has me very frustrated. Im following a really good tutorial at the moment, I move the plane to Munich because this is an evaluation only, i stop the engines, I changed the start of gsx to just F12 and F11 respectfully.
--- End quote ---

I can't see any reason why anyone would need to change the GSX keys to F11 and F12, especially considering they ARE (by default) reserved by FSX to control camera views. We configured to be CTRL+F12 and CTRL+Shift+F12 for a reason...


--- Quote ---I also changed the assigment to open doors to "M" as suggested by tutorial, so M1 M2 M3 and so on.
--- End quote ---

This doesn't make any sense either, and the author of that tutorial doesn't seem to know FSX very well. The M key, by default, is used by FSX to control the Magnetos.


--- Quote ---However, I cant save this new assignment at all, if i exit fsx or crash, it goes back to shift E is it?
--- End quote ---

Obviously because FSX wants to use the M key!

But, do you realize that this doesn't have ANYTHING to do with GSX ? You were supposed to know how to open doors BEFORE GSX, and installing it doesn't change anything.



--- Quote ---Anyway, my main problems really are getting the catering doors to open
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Again, this is a problem that doesn't have ANYTHING to do with GSX. Suppose you wanted to open the catering doors BEFORE adding GSX. Would this change anything ? If you didn't know it before, installing GSX won't change anything.

Of course, you are referring to a freeware airplane, so I cannot even tell you if those doors even EXISTS! They might just be "painted on" and not being animated, you cannot be *sure* of this. I really hope you don't expect that GSX would automagically convert static doors into working ones!

But of course, this is an assumption. On a default airplane, the catering doors are opened with SHIFT+E and then 3. On 3rd party airplane, nothing is certain.

WHICH IS WHY, GSX has an easy to use airplane configuration editor included, so you can TELL GSX, how each door is open on an any particular airplane which is not ALREADY supported. This is the updated list of internally-supported airplanes:

http://www.fsdreamteam.com/forum/index.php/topic,5481.0.html

If the model you want to use is not included in that list, you MUST create a configuration for it for the first time you use it, otherwise it won't work with GSX.



--- Quote ---The van appears, but the man walks straight through the closed service door with his head poking out of the top of plane, ???
--- End quote ---

That's because that door is not configured, so GSX doesn't know how you open it, so it's set to ignore it. Which is what it's supposed to be, if the door is "fake".


--- Quote --- the lift of the van is to high?? ???
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Because you haven't configured the door.


--- Quote ---i have tried all sorts of things to make exit3 work, but it dont, and I have beeps all the time asking me to open  exit 3...
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Because you haven't said to GSX how that doors will open. Assuming it CAN be opened. If it can't, you MUST tell GSX to ignore it. Again, using the included airplane configuration editor.


--- Quote ---I can open baggage doors and main  doors. I  opened my aircraft configuration window from the drop down menu, the #1 fsx open main doors works fine
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Main door always work.


--- Quote ---but #2 sometimes hangs
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This doesn't obviously have anything to do with GSX. If it worked like this before, using GSX or not won't make ANY difference. But, it's possible it's a result of the fact you changed to use the M key, so you are in conflict with FSX. Or, you simply are not getting the hang of the brief "pause" between the first key (which should be Shift+E anyway, not M) and the number.

Again, NOTHING that has anything to do with GSX. You are just asking how to open doors on a particular airplane that, for all we know, might simply have been modeled with a fake catering door. But again, you CAN tell GSX about this, by setting it to Ignore that door. Obviously, you WILL see the guy going through the airplane bulkhead, but at least GSX won't keep asking for the door, and will start the service.


--- Quote ---but exit 3, nothing on earth will open those starboard service doors
--- End quote ---

Again: you are referring to a 3rd party freeware airplane. What makes you *sure* that door can be opened in the first place ?


--- Quote ---and it usually ends with fsx crashing, then I lose my "M" saved assignment.
--- End quote ---

That's because you shouldn't have used M in the first place. Key conflicts might cause FSX to crash. Use the default Shift+E key.



--- Quote ---I really dont want to pay out £25 for gsx, if third party British Airways planes are not going to usable with it obviously. I am not technically as profient as i was, so opening up complicated bits of code, to fix what seems to be a simple problem.
--- End quote ---

GSX works with ANY airplane, even those that don't exists yet. But if the airplane is not already supported internally (see the above list), you MUST create a configuration for it before being able to use it.

No "complicated bits of code", just use the supplied airplane configuration utility, that is entirely interactive and graphical. You only need to READ the manual, which clearly explains how to use it.



--- Quote ---I dont know why i get two catering trucks that duplicate each other either
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Because you haven't configured the airplane!

Manchester EGCC:
Thank you so much for the information. Im sorry it was long and drawn out, but unfortunately a product of me being a video recorder engineer in the early eighties where all my knowledge is Analogue, born a bit to late to really understand the digital world unlike the youngsters who bought up on it.

The issue that Virtuali, adds, that " I cant see any reason why anyone would need to change the GSX keys to just one keystoke", is because I havent as yet explained that using a keyboard is extremely painful for me, as not only is my hip due for replacement ,I have agonising thumb joint wear and tear Arthritis, and crooked middle fingers, so I have to replace two or three finger commands with one, because Im not physically able to do multiple stokes.  I use Dragon speech recognition on some programs, but game manufacturers are very reluctant to install speech recognition software for commands, for people like me, I have been badgering Second life 3 years now to install it, because I operate a British Airways trading Airport in it, and fly 14 types of planes in it. The tutorial guy, states "M" is not assigned to anything, which is why he says he uses it, maybe, like me he doesnt need a "Magneto" assignment?

I had no idea some aircraft have only painted service doors, instead of working ones, especially as the tutorial Im working from. shows all the doors opening to receive services. but on loading passengers, I dont here the welcome from the stewards, as they board, or the clatter of children or anything that this guy gets on his default fsx plane tutorial. The baggage handlers do not load any baggage at all, although cargo doors are open, there is no animated person loading, and suit cases are totally missing from the carts? I notice you mention a key input (SHIFT+E and then 3), this is almost impossible for me to do with out experiencing severe pain. To end as, my fingers are already starting to complain, trying to start ctrl+f12 or ctrl f11 is not an option, I must try and assign it to one command.  I know most of you don't understand how difficult it is for me to operate a keyboard, unless I take pain killers, and thats why Im installing Saitek modules, which dont require mouse pointers which also give me problems. maybe one of you knows of a speech recognition software that I could voice commands to open doors??  Unfortunately people jump to conclusions that I am normal like everybody else, just because I can spell and teach people with learning difficulties, that doesn't mean I dont suffer A disability with  my fingers and other hand joints. it takes me a good half hour to write this, because my Dragon speech program, wont recognise spoken word onto this forum. I be back later to see if there may be some way round to getting around these these keyboard commands, so I can use one finger only. Thanks again for your suggestions. Mike

Manchester EGCC:
I found this, while having a cuppa, maybe some one here, knows anything about these ways of by passing keyboard commands on this page. thanks
http://www.arthritisselfmanagement.com/health/daily-living/easier-computing/?page=all


I aso found this Utube video of FSX being controlled by sme software called e.speaking, which looks good, but will it recognise my voice commands to pen service doors or request fuelling, or start boarding within the gsx program within fsx, sorry typs very harf to maintain typing for long heers:)

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